A question in regards to a nested sequence

I'm assembling many sequences into a FINAL sequence, and I noticed while checking Item Properties that the "little"sequences in the Final Sequence have Field Dominance set to None or Non Set, but when I check the same - little sequences' Item Properties in the Browser they have Field Dominance set to Lower, Even First.
Question #1: IS THIS something to be concerned with? or - can I proceed, and my final, assembled "big" sequence will be OK?
I already rendered all of the "little" sequences, but when they are put into the final "big" sequence, I see some grey within the blue (rendered line on a top of the Timeline's audio/video bar), and in those spots (when hover the mouse over there) it says: Audio: Media Files or Video: Media Files instead of "Rendered", as it does say in a majority of the render two bars on a top of the Timeline.
Question #2: Is THIS something to be concerned with? Should I try to render those spots, or - can I proceed, and my final, assembled "big" sequence will be OK?
It is an important project, so I would like to do it as good as I can... Thank you.

Thank you so much! YEs - it is a DV (NTSC) sequence/es.
..so the "Media File" instead of the "Rendered" is OK, and it just does not need to be rendered - that's great (I know about the "other" colors), and I will definitely do the Mixdown.
Thank you again, and if you have ANY additional tips for such a nested sequence (comprised out of 40+ "little" sequences) - please let me know (I inserted a 2 sec Slug at the very beginning of the "big" sequence (that nests all the "little" ones, so I thought that perhaps that Slug might create a "NONE" in the Item Properties for all the rest ..?)

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