A/R Down Payment Invoice with Discount

Hi,
I have a design question about the "A/R Down Payment Invoice" functionality in SAP B1 (version 8.81 PL09). Consider the following example:
I have a sales order with "total before discount" of 1000 euro. Customer gets 10% discount on this order, so order total is 900 euro.
I ask the customer to pay 300 euro of these 900 euro in advance (= down payment). I create a A/R Down Payment Invoice, I copy the sales order into the invoice. Then, I see the following on my screen: Total before discount = 1000 euro (which is correct), Down Payment = 90% = 900 euro. This is not correct, because 90% down payment would be 810 euro.
I go further and give 300 euro in as "down payment" and I ignore the wrong "down payment percentage". When I create my lay-out for my "down payment invoice", it is not possible to get the discount (of 10% = 100 euro in this example) printed. I only find the following information in the database table (ODPI): Total before discount = 1000 euro (correct), Discount percentage = 70% (NOT correct, should be 10%), Down Payment percentage = 30% (NOT correct, should be 33,33%).
This looks like a huge mistake in the design of a "down payment invoice" in SAP B1. How can I fetch the following data from the database:
1) Total before discount = 1000 euro
2) Discount 10% = -100 euro
3) Total after discount = 900 euro
4) Down payment = 300 euro
I can do line 1 and 4, but cannot find a way to retrieve line 2 and 3.
Regards,
Pieter

Hi Pieter,
Where did you set the discount? Is it on document level?
Have you tried on line level?
Thanks,
Gordon

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