A single Amd Fx 51 or Dual Opteron 248's????????????

I have asked you many questions over the past few years and I have another question for you. I have the option to run dual opteron 248's instead of my Amd fx 51. Would I see a performance gain?Or would it be a waste?

FX-51 = 2.2 GHz
Opteron 248 = 2.2 Ghz
So clock-for-clock, both CPU's will perform roughly the same, and both have 1Mb cache.
So for things like gaming, there won't be much difference, HOWEVER if you are using multi-threaded applications (eg. encoding, rendering), then you DEFINITELY want to go the Dual Opteron route.
My 2 cents!

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Dual Opteron's

Hi.
Will I get better performance with Dual CPU's instead of a Single CPU?

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Originally posted by Acid007
Hi.
Will I get better performance with Dual CPU's instead of a Single CPU?
Depends what software you are running.
Most programs can only use a single CPU. They are described as "single threaded". Some high-end apps are multi-threaded, which means they are written to use multiple CPUs by running as small indepenant "threads". One thread uses one CPU while anothe uses a second.
So if you run Photoshop, 3Dstudio Max, Cinema4D, Adobe AfterEffects or other things like that written as multi-threading programs for multiple CPU systems then a dual Opteron will run nearly twice as fast as a similarly clocked single.
Equally, if you run multiple progams that can use as much CPU as they can get simultaneously, than 2 CPUS will help.
But most people don't do that. Few programs even use 1 CPU to the full. With 2 CPUs you could set a program to rendering video and then play games while it was running, but it's rare on a home PC to have multiple programs that need the CPU running at the same time.
In which case the second CPU will give you at most a few % improvement.
Peter

WARNING... K8T Master 2 FAR Dual Opteron upgrade

Anyone owning this board who has set up with one processor with a view to upgrading to dual beware.
I recently assembled a machine in MAY 2004 using one AMD 242 Opteron, the system works fine and as Opteron prices have dropped i ordered the second one. Despite the short period of time between the two orders the processors are incompatible. I include an extract from an e-mail from AMD tech support
Based on the part numbers that you provided me for your Opteron 242
processors please note that based on their revisions they are not
compatible so will not work together.
OSA242CC05 AH --> AH part # is a B3 revision
OSA242CEP5 AU --> AU part # is a CG revision
Please ensure that when putting these processors on a dual processor
motherboard both processors revision #s are the same. I have included
a link for you below with information on how to determine the revision
# for your processor.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30417.pdf
I am assuming that it would be fairly difficult to track down a match for the first processor so i will probabltyhave to order a third processor to match the new one which leaves one spare...for what?
I hope that this information will help to avoid you wasting money and valuable time trying to set up a basic dual opteron system.

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Have you tried looking at the serial numbers through the packaging on the retail boxed version, it is difficult enough to read with the processor out of the packaging and there is nothing on the outside of the packaging to diferentiate one batch from another. Pretty pathetic considering AMD designed the 242 series for dual boards.
no i havent but i know its possible to get athlon xp with a certain number in sweden.
and if its like this it will give amd bad reputation.

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[Opteron] Dual Opteron nForce 3 250 Ultra board?

Hi
Does anyone know when we can expect a dual opteron nForce3 250 Ultra board from MSI?
Looks like iWill is the first one out of the gate with such a board.
Thanks in advance.

Hi Paul,
I think that there will be no problems - if you include a good PSU in the set up.
I would recommend to see what BIOS there is coming with the board - 1.9 or higher will recognise the X2 CPUs. If not strictly necessary, I would advice against flashing the BIOS of this board, unless - of course - you encounter specific problems. In that case I would flash an official BIOS (1.B) and not a beta, or modded BIOS.
At present the 4800 X2 is still quite expensive; the 4400 X2 is much better from a price/performance point-of-view ...
As far as RAM is concerned: why would you want to run 4GB of RAM? For normal programs/games, 1GB is more than sufficient and only with some of the newest games a noticeable increase in performance can be seen when 2GB is used in stead of 1GB. It is hard to imagine that adding 2 GB more will lead to an increase in performance. Instead it must be expected that you will loose performance (because of dropping to 333MHz, looser timings, etc.). I therefore recommend to go for 2GB of good quality RAM.
Hope this helps,
Hans

Dual opteron supported on arch ?

I am thinking about a system with these parts :
supermicro H8DAE-2 motherboard
dual opteron 2379 HE processor
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Is such a setup supported with 64-bit Archlinux ?

Dual Opteron processors are supported by the Linux kernel, so I guess it is supported by Archlinux too; also the 16 GB memory is not a problem

K8T Master 2 FAR dual Opteron 250 Vista 64bit BIOS 1.4 only 1 CPU show!!! Help!!

Hi,
I am new to this forum but had been working on this problems for a week!
Here my system:
MSI K8t Master 2 FAR
ECC ram 2GB
Dual Opteron 250 replaced the dual Opteron 242 one week ago
BIOS upgrade to 1.4
Window Vista 64bit from Window XP Pro
The POST, Device Manager detect two new CPUs. However, there are only one CPU being utilize in task manager (yes, I have check one graph per CPU). It appear from the forum that BIOS 1.35B5? would work but I could not find it. Try to install Window XP Pro but failed (flopppy drive does not work).
Any help and suggestion would be greatly appreciated!
Wai

No options after slash "/"?
Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 14-August-08, 19:42:45
Does it worked before to update BIOS to 1.4?
Quote from: Wai on 15-August-08, 06:55:42
With BIOS 1.1 and dual Opteron 242, I have both CPU work as shown by Device manager and task manager (two CPU graphs). I can only get one CPU work since I upgrade to Opteron 250 and BIOS 1.4. Unfortunately BIOS 1.1 do not support Opteron 250.
Wai
Check this topic:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=90059.0
"Running 2 CPU's will show just 1 CPU in the Opterating system, was reported by a user."
Quote from: Lord Anubis on 01-June-08, 21:22:00
has anyone tried the new v1.40 bios released 2008-04-10 for this board?
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=133&prod_no=675
Quote from: slava_b on 17-June-08, 16:02:30
I tried. More stable then 1.47, but not fully workable. Second CPU dont work, Smart fan dont work, if 4Gb installed -> CPU kernel time load 60-70% permanently. Last stable workable release is 1.35, but i have slow down if install LSI 21320R.
1.35 appear to be last stable version reported by users
Quote from: Wai on 10-August-08, 23:21:53
It appear from the forum that BIOS 1.35B5? would work but I could not find it.
Here is it:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90059.0;attach=1707
Change Log, your CPU is supported as well:
2. Added Feature:
(a)support new Opteron 250 CPUs
Flash at own risk

Trying to assemble dual opteron system, no display.

My system:
MSI K8T Master2-FAR
Dual Opteron 250 cpus
BFG 6800 Ultra OC
2 gigs pqi turbo registered ecc ram (2 sticks)
74 gig raptor
300 gig 16mb cache maxtor
SB Audigy2 zs
Matrox RT.X100 exteme pro video editing card
7 120mm led fans
4 80mm led fans
2 fan controllers
Pioneer 108 dvd burner
I finally got all the parts and tried building my first self built pc with a friend. I have everything plugged in, all the fans spin, controllers light up, heatsink fans spinning. and im pretty sure the hds are going to, but nothing shows up on the monitor. I even put my old geforce 2 card so i could make sure it wasnt the 6800, but even that wouldnt work. My board has no onboard video so i cant use that. What do I do?

Well I got my new psu, put it in and tried everything. One processor, one stick of ram (only ecc ram I have), two sticks, 2 cpus and one stick, ect, reset the jumpers. But someone said the board needs a bios update to run the 250's. So I was pissed I may have to buy a 140 just to update the bios. But I called MSI and they are sending me a new bios chip with the latest bios on them.
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Inserting multiple rows using a single Insert statement without using dual

Hi all,
i am trying to insert multiple rows using a single insert statement like the below one.
The below one works fine..
But is there any other change that can be done in the below one without using dual...
insert all
into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (1,1)
into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (2,2)
into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (3,3)
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NiranjanSe wrote:
Hi all,
i am trying to insert multiple rows using a single insert statement like the below one.
The below one works fine..
But is there any other change that can be done in the below one without using dual...
insert all
into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (1,1)
into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (2,2)
into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (3,3)
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Table created.
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2 into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (1,1)
3 into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (2,2)
4 into ps_hd_samp (num1,num2) values (3,3)
5 select count(*)
6 from ps_hd_samp;
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         1          1
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Single G5 Xserve Upgradeable to Dual?

Hey guys, I know it's a legacy product, but I thought I'd ask.
Can a single 2.0Ghz G5 XServe be upgraded to a dual 2.0?
I see chips with heat sinks on ebay and there is just a small cap covering the second port on the XServe's logic board. Can I pick up a second CPU and pop it in?

If you can't afford to break the hardware (and in all seriousness), then you shouldn't be asking.
And if you can afford to try it and can afford to break the hardware, well, you shouldn't be asking. Just go try it.
If it works (or if it breaks), let us know.

Expanding a single processor G5 to a dual processor

Hi , I have an early 1.6 single processor G5. Is it possible to add another processor to this computer? Thanks for any help.
Also, Will I have any trouble running panther on this machine? I am now using 10.3.9
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Depends on the MLB. Some of the First generation SP G5's have a MLB with the circuitry and connector for a second processor. However if this is the case it can ONLY take a second 1.6 GHz as the board will be set up as not to take anything faster than 1.6.
A dual compatible MLB should also have 8 DIMM slots, as far as I know the 4 DIMM MLB does not exist with dial CPU connectors.

Driving MSI Dual Opteron Master2

So, there I was at the swap meet standing in front of this dual socket mainboard with a red printed circuit board. It was beautiful! And, I think it was calling to me faintly. It apeared to have never been removed from the wrapper and it was resting on a retail box. A Lady walked over to me and said, "I'll sell it cheap if you buy it now...?" It was late in the day and people were leaving. "Where's the rest of it?" I asked. There was nothing included but the board. Basically a heap of scrap without the CD, I thought.
As it turned out I walked away with it tucked under my arm after handing over a few coins. Arriving home I shot on the web to MSI. I typed in MS9130 at every search bar on every page for ten minutes. No Data Available! was returned every time. Then I tried K8TMaster2FAR. Nothing. Ah Hah, I thought. No wonder it's so cheap. I Bought a board that MSI doesn't even support. Well, judging by the specifications listed on the box, I knew it was too good to be true. I could not even make up a more impressive listing except perhaps the Asus with PCIe.
So, I guess the question is...is there a way to get a CD from MSI without the standard sacrificial first born child, please? They have never answered any of a dozen E-Mails.
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Primal Sorceress II Case
Digital Doc 5 Thermal Controller (5.25")
Digital Hot Swap Drive (5.25")
Maxter 80GB UDMA6 System Disk
3xMaxtor 120GB UDMA6 Storage Disks
Sony DVD ROM
Sony 52x CDRW
Card Reader, Floppy & Front IO
Multi Boot - Win98, Win2K Pro

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[SOLVED] AMD APU+Dedicated Graphics - Dual Graphics/Turn One Off?

Hello! I have an AMD 3420M APU with 7670M graphics. I use the Dual Graphics feature on Windows (it's available via CCC). I have a working Arch Linux install however it only uses my integrated chip (which isn't terrible but isn't ideal either). I'll try to outline what I've done and what I hope to accomplish .
My BIOS has no feature to turn off the graphics of the APU and the manufacturer (ASUS) doesn't show any signs of ever updating the BIOS for my series of laptops.
As it's an AMD APU so it has ATI/AMD graphics I'm working with ATI/ATI (instead of the usual Intel/ATI) so I can't just blacklist a module to specifically disable a card.
Reading the wiki I've found vga switcheroo however it seems to explicitly mention Intel/ATI so I'm not sure if it would work for me.
This part got me a little bit excited and I would really like a more experienced user to help me with maybe utilizing the following on Arch:
Arch Wiki wrote:The Dynamic Switch needs Xorg support for the discrete videocard assigned to rendering [1].
So, the method listed here (and the AUR package related) will not work until Xorg team add support for the redering on a second card not attached to video. See here for more info.
Specifically what is exciting is the link here is actually listed as "complete" as well as the (newer) blueprint here. I interpret that as either it will be implemented in Xorg soon or it already has been implemented. Which is it, and if it's implemented, how do I utilize it?
I understand there isn't bucket loads of information about APUs on the Internet yet but it would be nice if this could ultimately lead to a clear and transparent way to utilize APU+GPU combos on Unix-like systems .
Last edited by titegtnodI (2012-11-10 17:42:47)

kvanberendonck wrote:
Hi, I have the A8 3500-M APU with a similar setup. I solved my problem by installing the fglrx driver for linux from AMD.
When in X, you can use the same control panel as on windows.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst
Beware though! While it makes the GPU much, much, much more power efficient and greatly increases the battery life, for some reason it causes the GPU to run at max load for a few seconds during startup which burns a ridiculous amount of power (>25W) until X starts, so make sure you start X automatically somewhere early.
Okay thanks! I was on Catalyst but I did not have the "Switchable Graphics" menu! It's also a much more stripped-down version of the menu (which I'm thinking I prefer).
All I've done is run "pacman -Syu" and disable DPMS and now I see the menu. Strange.
Thank you for the post! I'll mark this as solved .

CAN'T get new dual Opteron to POST!

I just boaght a new MB/Chip/RAM set, consisting of:
2 x Opteron 244
MSI K8T Master2 - 9130 motherboard
2 x Kingston 1GB Kit 400MHz DDR Registered ECC Double-Row 3-3-3 - KVR400X72RC3AK2/1GD
I'm using a 500 Watt PSU and an ATi 9700 video card. I have not been able to get it to post in this vanilla state. I have checked to ensure no shorts between the MB and case, have checked for bent pins on all IDE ports, chips, and jumpers, and have tested the system in all configurations from just chips, to a full system. No post at all. Any ideas? Need any more info? I'm desperate at this point, since I am all the tech support I have in my neck of the woods.

Yes, of course I did connect the main power. I get power to all the fans in the system, but no post. I never use the AGP pro power on my PSU, since none of the main stream cards ever decided to use it. I got the board from newegg and have noticed that the only major issue them seem to have is sending out bad components. Friends, reviews, whatever, they all seem to say the same thing. I'll probably end up RMAing this thing.
As for my PSU, it's a Powamax 500w.
+3.3@28A,+5@30A, +12@25A, [email protected], [email protected]
It ran my dual MP system fine, and should have enough juice to post, even if it's not a top quality PSU. I've never seen a PSU with this much wattage with less than 18A on the 12v rail, so it should boot up considering I have nothing else plugged in. In any case, I did order one of the MSI recommended PSUs, and Enermax 460w. If that does not work, back it goes I guess.

A single Amd Fx 51 or Dual Opteron 248's????????????

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