A third-party directory servers/security provider (LDAP)

Here is a scenario. If a security provider is a third-party directory servers that supports LDAP, is there a way to define roles in my schema table but LDAP be my authentication security provider? Sounds like a double security provider! (Looks like I had asked something similar long time ago)
Or does the LDAP server needs to be a real provider (authentication and authorization and handle roles as well and not leave anything for me except permissions) while I set up permissions in system-jazn-data.xml and define roles in web.xml that matches the roles in ldap?
Since the third party security provider throws in a login dialog, I may not have to use custom login module. But, I want to set up permissions. Hope I am making sense. Default realm jazn will now be replaced by something that says it is ldap. Is that assumption correct?
If I make sense, please point to a doc about the above scenario.
Thanks

Hi,
Here is a scenario. If a security provider is a third-party directory servers that supports LDAP, is there a way to define roles in my schema table but LDAP be my authentication security provider? Sounds like a double security provider! (Looks like I had asked something similar long time ago
You can use this scenario assuming you have a LoginModule that gets the authenticated user from LDAP and then queries the database for the security roles. This however doe not work with any of the LoginModules that are published on OTN or contained in OC4J
Frank

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