A Thunderbolt of a Whoopin'

A friend showed me his Thunderbolt. For fun, we agreed to see how his phone and my X compared using the Speed Test app.
We were outside, out of wifi range (spinach to my Droid X) and man was it a weakling against the bolt and its 4G.
Results:
My phone:
Download: 28kbps Upload: 942kbps
Friend's Thunderbolt:
Download: 16879kbps Upload: 22273kbps
That's not even a buttt whoopin'. That is an outright annihilation.

dirkbonn wrote:
mortb wrote:
The main thing is that you must be in an area where 4G is available. Unfortunately, in my area we do not have Verizon 4g...yet.
Don't have it here in Hawaii yet either. (except at the airport)  Not expected to be here 'til later this year.  Doesn't matter to me yet anyway as my upgrade date is 3/12.  20 months from Droid X launch day.   But when that day draws near, you can bet money (large amounts of it) that I'll be picking out a 4G LTE phone.
I has 4G sometimes >.<  It's not as fast as listed above, but it could be due to range...  It's still faster than RR, and any other carrier we have here.
I may return the TB though.  My iPhone 4 has way more battery life...  My wife laughs at me when I go through 3 hours and my phone dies or is about to(I fool around with it A LOT).

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    !  ASL Module "com.apple.appstore" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    ! ASL Module "com.apple.authd" sharing output destination "/var/log/system.log" with ASL Module "com.apple.asl".!
    ! Output parameters from ASL Module "com.apple.asl" override any specified in ASL Module "com.apple.authd".!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.authd" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.bookstore" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.eventmonitor" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.install" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.iokit.power" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.mail" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.MessageTracer" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.performance" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost syslogd[23]: Configuration Notice:!
    !  ASL Module "com.apple.securityd" claims selected messages.!
    !  Those messages may not appear in standard system log files or in the ASL database.! Apr 7 19:40:25 --- last message repeated 6 times ---!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: Longterm timer threshold: 1000 ms!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: PMAP: PCID enabled!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: PMAP: Supervisor Mode Execute Protection enabled!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: Darwin Kernel Version 13.1.0: Thu Jan 16 19:40:37 PST 2014; root:xnu-2422.90.20~2/RELEASE_X86_64!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: vm_page_bootstrap: 8075836 free pages and 280004 wired pages!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: kext submap [0xffffff7f807a6000 - 0xffffff8000000000], kernel text [0xffffff8000200000 - 0xffffff80007a6000]!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: zone leak detection enabled!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: "vm_compressor_mode" is 4!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 (TMSafetyNet)! Apr 7 19:40:25 Apr 7 19:40:25 reserved.!
    localhost kernel[0]: standard background quantum is 2500 us! localhost kernel[0]: mig_table_max_displ = 74!
    localhost kernel[0]: TSC Deadline Timer supported and enabled! localhost kernel[0]: "name" not a kext!
    localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=0 LocalApicId=0 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=1 LocalApicId=1 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=2 LocalApicId=2 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=3 LocalApicId=3 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=4 LocalApicId=4 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=5 LocalApicId=5 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=6 LocalApicId=6 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=7 LocalApicId=7 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=8 LocalApicId=8 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=9 LocalApicId=9 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=10 LocalApicId=10 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=11 LocalApicId=11 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=12 LocalApicId=16 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=13 LocalApicId=17 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=14 LocalApicId=18 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=15 LocalApicId=19 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=16 LocalApicId=20 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=17 LocalApicId=21 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=18 LocalApicId=22 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=19 LocalApicId=23 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=20 LocalApicId=24 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=21 LocalApicId=25 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=22 LocalApicId=26 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorId=23 LocalApicId=27 Enabled! localhost kernel[0]: calling mpo_policy_init for Sandbox!
    localhost kernel[0]: Security policy loaded: Seatbelt sandbox policy (Sandbox)! localhost kernel[0]: calling mpo_policy_init for Quarantine!
    localhost kernel[0]: Security policy loaded: Quarantine policy (Quarantine)! localhost kernel[0]: calling mpo_policy_init for TMSafetyNet!
    localhost kernel[0]: Security policy loaded: Safety net for Time Machine
    localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993! localhost kernel[0]: The Regents of the University of California. All rights
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    headers!
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    cpu) 0xfff80000000, 0x80000000!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: [ PCI configuration begin ]!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement: Turbo Ratios 3334777B!
    localhost kernel[0]: MAC Framework successfully initialized!
    localhost kernel[0]: using 16384 buffer headers and 10240 cluster IO buffer
    localhost kernel[0]: AppleKeyStore starting (BUILT: Jan 16 2014 20:19:00)! localhost kernel[0]: IOAPIC: Version 0x20 Vectors 64:87!
    localhost kernel[0]: IOAPIC: Version 0x20 Vectors 88:111!
    localhost kernel[0]: ACPI: sleep states S3 S4 S5!
    localhost kernel[0]: pci (build 20:00:24 Jan 16 2014), flags 0x63008, pfm64 (44
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement: (built 19:46:50 Jan 16 2014) initialization complete!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: console relocated to 0xfff80010000!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: [ PCI configuration end, bridges 62, devices 40 ]!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: mcache: 24 CPU(s), 64 bytes CPU cache line size! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: mbinit: done [128 MB total pool size, (85/42) split]! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: Pthread support ABORTS when sync kernel primitives misused!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: srom rev:11!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: ARPT: 1.606571: ChangeVCO => vco:960, xtalF:40, frac: 98, ndivMode: 3, ndivint: 24!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: ARPT: 1.609224: Data written into the PLL_CNTRL_ADDR2: 00000c31!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: ARPT: 1.611311: Data written into the PLL_CNTRL_ADDR3 (Fractional): 0000100e!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: ARPT: 1.621783: BTCOEXIST off !
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: ARPT: 1.623256: BRCM tunables:!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: ARPT: 1.624267: pullmode[1] txringsize[ 256] txsendqsize[1024] reapmin[ 32] reapcount[ 128]!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: ARPT: 1.627926: wl0: Broadcom BCM43a0, vendorID[0x14e4] BAR0[0xa0200004]!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: 6.30.223.154 (r420397)!
    Apr 7 19:40:24 localhost com.apple.launchd[1]: *** launchd[1] has started up. ***!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: SATA WARNING: IDENTIFY DEVICE checksum not implemented.!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: com.apple.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless kmod start! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: rooting via boot-uuid from /chosen: A962FD97-4601-382C- B4EC-DD073E4748F7!
    Apr 7 19:40:24 localhost com.apple.launchd[1]: *** Verbose boot, will log to /dev/console. ***! Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</ key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot- uuid-media</string></dict>!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: com.apple.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib kmod start!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: com.apple.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless load succeeded!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: com.apple.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib load succeeded! Apr 7 19:40:24 localhost com.apple.launchd[1]: *** Shutdown logging is enabled. ***!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost com.apple.launchd[1] (com.promise.BGPMain_R): Unknown key for boolean: OnLoad!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient: readyGot boot device = IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/RP05@1C,4/IOPP/ SSD0@0/AppleAHCI/PRT0@0/IOAHCIDevice@0/AppleAHCIDiskDriver/ IOAHCIBlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDriver/APPLE SSD SM1024F Media/ IOGUIDPartitionScheme/Mac Pro 1TB@2!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost com.apple.SecurityServer[19]: Session 100000 created!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: BSD root: disk0s2, major 1, minor 1!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: AppleThunderboltNHIType2::setupPowerSavings - GPE based runtime power management!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 --- last message repeated 1 time ---!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire runtime power conservation disabled. (3)!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: STEX : PromiseSTEX loaded up...!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: hfs: mounted Mac Pro 1TB on device root_device!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Lucent ID 5901 PCI now active, GUID ec1a597ba0712f76; max speed s800.!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost distnoted[24]: # distnote server daemon absolute time: 3.925139235 civil time: Mon Apr 7 19:40:25 2014 pid: 24 uid: 0 root: yes!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: IO80211Controller::dataLinkLayerAttachComplete(): adding AppleEFINVRAM notification!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: IO80211Interface::efiNVRAMPublished(): !
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost configd[22]: IPConfiguration: verbose mode enabled!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost com.apple.SecurityServer[19]: Entering service!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: flow_divert_kctl_disconnect (0): disconnecting group 1!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost UserEventAgent[15]: Captive: CNPluginHandler en2: Inactive!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost UserEventAgent[15]: Failed to copy info dictionary for bundle /System/ Library/UserEventPlugins/alfUIplugin.plugin!
    Apr 7 19:40:25 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting for DSMOS...!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 localhost kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Down on en2. Reason 8 (Disassociated because station leaving).!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 localhost configd[22]: dhcp_arp_router: en2 SSID unavailable!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 localhost configd[22]: network changed.!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 BCs-Mac-Pro.local configd[22]: setting hostname to "BCs-Mac-Pro.local"!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: AGC: 3.4.35, HW version=4.0.11 [3.2.8], flags:0, features:0!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: Previous Shutdown Cause: 3!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 BCs-Mac-Pro.local systemkeychain[44]: done file: /var/run/ systemkeychaincheck.done!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: [05094] BlackmagicIO: Started device "UltraStudio
    4K" (cc2b72d) FW Date: 02-11 08:54!
    Apr 7 19:40:26 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: STEX : Init controller event and source!
    Apr 7 19:40:27 BCs-Mac-Pro.local com.apple.kextd[16]: WARNING - Invalid signature -67050 0xFFFFFFFFFFFEFA16 for kext "/System/Library/Extensions/Blackmagic_HDLink_Driver.kext"! Apr 7 19:40:27 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: HDLink driver found device: 04b4:bd11 - writing FX2! Apr 7 19:40:27 --- last message repeated 1 time ---!
    Apr 7 19:40:27 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: IOPPF - IODeviceTree:/efi/platform/ StartupPowerEvents: 0x0!
    Apr 7 19:40:28 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: Ethernet [AppleBCM5701Ethernet]: Link up on en13, 100-Megabit, Full-duplex, Symmetric flow-control, Debug [796d,2301,0de1,0300,4de1,0000]! Apr 7 19:40:29 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: IOBluetoothUSBDFU::probe!
    Apr 7 19:40:29 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: IOBluetoothUSBDFU::probe ProductID - 0x828D FirmwareVersion - 0x0079!
    Apr 7 19:40:29 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: **** [IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport][start] -- completed -- result = TRUE -- 0x1000 ****!
    Apr 7 19:40:29 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: **** [BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport] [start] -- Completed -- 0x1000 ****!
    Apr 7 19:40:29 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: IOPPF: AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement mode!
    Apr 7 19:40:29 BCs-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: STEX : Get the virtual address : ab6a6000

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