A tip for those with a fully depleted batt

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I believe this is primarily due to the fact that when you plug your Zen into a USB port, the first thing it tries to do is dock, which uses what little power might be left in the battery. Contrary to the information in the knowledge base, my Zen would not take a charge regardless of how long I left it connected like this. I guess it gets stuck in a weird state and never makes it to the "accept charge" state.
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I hope that all made sense and that it helps someone out there. I was about ready to send mine in for repair, but this saved me the trouble.

Excellent tip, shoeless!I had such problem with my Zen Vision M: 60 GB. I solved leaving it into the usb plug for many time. Maybe my laptop went in a standby mode and the player didn't try to dock, but it was enough to charge a bit the Zen, and after fully charged.

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