A whole day gone, just to install Leopard...

What a procedure! Installed, yes the 'Retail' version of Leopard on a Power Mac G4. It did it's check, said good to install. Clicked upgrade install. Half way through installing, error comes up and says it can't install Leopard. So, restarted the computer. Computer then couldn't find a system to start up and is clearly non-functional after many attempts. I plugged the computer into another laptop and booted it like a firewire drive, holding 'T' on start up. Contents are all still there.
So I do an install and archive. Seems to work, loads up after install.
THEN...
It wants to update. So I let it update.... Big Mistake. As it's doing it's updates.... another error... and back to machine not booting up again. Gets to the Mac symbol and spins and spins and spins...
So now, I'm doing a complete erase and install.....
Why is it every time a great new operating system is launched and it's 'so easy' to install.... am I watching the late hours roll around and I'm 16 to 20 hours in????
I know everyone's machines are different with 3rd party plug ins, ram, drives etc...
But really can they not simplify it all?
Sorry for the moan guys...

Nick Jackson2 wrote:
Really?.... it worked fine with Tiger...
If you search these threads back to when Leopard first came out you will find that many complaints about RAM were exactly what you may have experienced.
Tiger is very "easy" on RAM and does not press the RAM to the limits of the specs. Leopard does, and so if the RAM does not fully meet the Apple specs, Leopard will not be able to run.
Again, a quick search of these Leopard forums back when Leopard first came out will give you the full explanation of why things run with Tiger and not Leopard.
Ditto for many WiFi modems, which worked with Tiger but needed firmware updates to work with Leopard - because of security issues and other such things.
When you install a more powerful OS on an existing system, unless the hardware fully meets the new requirements, the new OS may not run properly.
The fact that things work with Tiger is not relevant. The question is do they work with Leopard.

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