ABAP/BI career

Hi, I have total 4 year of exp on ERP development & customization with sql dba & 1.5 years on sap-abap. At present i am working as sql dba. i want to change my current sql dba profile to SAP. Please tell me which is the best option for me sap-abap or sap-bi or sap-bw. is sap-bi or sap-bw are the same module ?

Hi Otto,
Actually in my last organization, I have worked in Ramco ERP & I have the complete knowledge of ERP Cycles in that organization (Manufacturing Organization) & also handling the Sql DBA Task. At they same time they have implemented the SAP in some other business so i got a chance for SAP Implementation & work as ABAP developer for 1.5 Years. But after Successful Implementation, Because it was the other part of business of the organization, therefore we are not getting the more chance on working ABAP and we need to look our main business(Ramco & SQL). So i need to look mainly for RAMCO & SQL. They have hired some other trainee so i need to trained them on ABAP, so that they can look further for SAP-ABAP Development.
So continue work on RAMCO ERP & SQL, I have changed the organization on sql dba plateform. Now after working in that organization for more than 1.5 Years on sql dba, i have a chance to rotate my profile.
Now I am interested to Work on SAP. So please tell me which Profile should i have to choose for my growth prospects in future SAP ABAP or SAP BI.
I have also listen that there are some technical barriers in ABAP after 5-6 Years, for growth prospects. I have also confused to listen that. Should i have changes to ABAP after having total exp of 6 years on sql dba. Because if there is some technical barrier in abap, then after 5 & 6 years work on abap i need to think again for some changes.
or should i have to move on SAP-BI. Because i have the All syntactical knowledge on ABAP & Database & SSIS knowledge.
If i will change to SAP-BI, then i think i need to restart my career or Experience count for SAP-BI from Zero. After hard working on SAP-BI for 1-2 years, will i get the right opportunity in market for my future growth prospects.
Please clarify me for all these doubts. your suggestion will very important for me.
Thanks
Nitin Varshney

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I have been doing VB, javascript, XML ASP and some WEb stuff from the past 6 years and now I got opportunity to work in SAP ABAP programming. I heard SAP market is always good and I already started learning ABAP and just wondering if I am taking a right decision for my career! I know my decision is going to be final but I appreciate if you can give some of your opinions! Thanks in advance.

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Could you please suggest me after ABAP , what is next step to enhance the SAP skills by considering all the SAP technologies?
Techno-Functional Consultant?
80 % Functional?
Any other Technical Platform? Webdynpro?PI? BI? HANA?
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Here the Pressing point is "how much of traditional ABAP skill level we can get extent"?
Depends on what word "traditional" means to you. One can`t spend his life writing reports and queries for years:))
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Another important thing is your position in the team. Are you a leader? A senior guy? A respected member of the team? That can improve your chances to move somehwhere else if you have the powers to make decisions. If that is not your case, you should apply for such position in the field you know before moving somewhere else. This way you should be able to advance your career with less effort and risk involved than in a brand new area.
I have gone through your web page and it's helpful to understand the evolution of career in SAP.
Which web page do you mean? If you didn`t see that yet, take a look at my blogs here on SDN, some are career related. And of course ABAP related.
Otto

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Hi,
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Basically a enginnering graduate in mechanical, I was always been interested in a level of programming as well as business processes..so ERP was always in the back of my mind..But my entry to IT has been associated with more of the UI stuff (to be specific, less of java and more of RIA) in my past 4 yrs exp in coding. But now I have taken a career break and am thinking of getting trained in SAP. I want to move away from more of UI development which I have always felt unthankful.
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Hello,
correct me if I am wrong. You don´t have any idea about how it works in SAP, how to navigate around, the concepts, nothing about theprogramming, about the database concept and stuff. Is that right? If yes, don´t think about the ABAP basics as the target, it will be thepath to the overall knowledge of the SAP system.
You will learn how it works, about the transactions, SAP standard, function modules, general rules you can use any time and that will provide you a better basis for your decision. After like 2 weeks playing with SAP ABAP trial (minisap) you will understand much more and you can ask the question again, with ability to ask about the details important for you.
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I hope that could help,
regards Otto

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