Abap+Java System Copy on NW2004

Hello Gurus:
I will be performing a system copy of NW2004 (not NW2004s) which is running on ABAPJava stack. How should I perform the system copy? I have gone thru the documents for ABAP system copy and Java System copy. What are steps that I need to follow to do the ABAPJava stack?
Huge thanks in advance.
Regards,
N.S
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Narayanan Swamy

Hi Swamy,
Please refer these notes to clarify further.
Hom./Het.System Copy SAP Web AS 6.40 SR1 Java Note 785848 .
restrictions which apply to the system copy see SAP Note 711093.
Cheers,
Shaym

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