ABAP or ABAP+JAVA in Solman Installation?

Hi,
We are going to implement Solution Manager 7 (SR3).
1. I would like to ask whats the best installation variant in installing solution manager? (ABAP or ABAP+ JAVA)
2. What are the additional capabilities of SolMan if we install ABAP+JAVA and not ABAP only?
We are planning on using solution manager for:
- Central Administration
- Change request management
- Root Cause Analysis
- Delivery of SAP support service
Thanks,
Roel

Dear
Solution Manager has to have ABAP+JAVA stack so your choice is easy.
Solution Manager Java Stack offers additional functionality as well as tools.
For example Solution Manager Diagnostics.
Kind regards
Tom

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