Ableton Live 6 vs Logic Pro 8 CPU usage/audio quality.

Hi,
Any user's have feedback regarding CPU usage between Abelton Live 6 vs Logic Pro 8. I'm currently running Live 6 on an MBP 2.0ghz (CD) and am constantly running into audio drop outs etc etc.I am reading throughout the net that Logic Pro 8 is more CPU friendly than LIve 6... is this true, overall? Also any users ever do a mixing test between the two apps to see if there was an audio difference when rendering your final project to aiff or wav? I am thinking on using Live 6 as a stratch pad to "create" as I enjoy it's flexibility then transfer the project over to Logic, however that depends if there really is a difference in CPU usage and Audio quality between the two DAW's.
Thanks.
guess i should also state that i will be running on the new imac's come tax return time. lol

Logic 8 is very CPU friendly, I can say that much. I never found Ableton Live 5 to be very taxing either, though. Pro Tools is.
But like you I use Ableton as a scratchpad, I love how it works, and Logic for the finishing touches. But that's just because I'm not good at Logic yet. Not fast at it.
Get them both! You'll be glad you did.

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accuracy
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Now that my recording projects are getting more sufficient, I am using a lot more plug ins but running into the same problem over and over: 'System Overload'. My CPU maxes out and the programme stops.
I've followed a fair amount advice and done all the necessary adjustments in terms of Logic preferences to run smoother. However, I need to be in the position to have as many tracks and as many plug ins as I want!
As many plugins as you want, did I hear that correctly? Every machine has is limits, a few of Logic's high end plugins can bring the most powerful Mac_Pro to it's knees if used incorrectly.
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I assume you're using a bus for effects where possible (instead of inserts).
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Check out this article.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161

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Hi
It sounds to me like you are considering which new Mac to buy?
YJKimNaDa wrote:
1. What is the maximum number of threads/cores that Logic Pro 9 can support. I heard that it was 16 threads, which means that a processor with 8 physical cores is the maximum since Intel's HyperThreading makes them 16 thread/cores. So does anybody know of the max?
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YJKimNaDa wrote:
2. How well does Logic Pro 9 utilize processors that have more than 4 cores? Does the performance increase greatly with additional cores or is there barely any difference?
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161
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hth
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