Ableton Live and VST plugins with XP (Through Boot Camp) on a MAC Pro?
I am completely lost when it comes to macs, i am considering buying a mac pro with leopard but i have literally thousands of pounds worth of music production software (ableton live 6, reason 4 vst's etc etc) on my pc that i want to use in xp on a mac pro. Will all software like this run identically the same as it would on my pc that i have at the moment? I don't want to fork out this large and excessive amount of money again for this software. My pc is far too slow for the heights i'm getting to and also keeps crashing which is super annoying! Any help would be awesome, many thanks - Al
Hi and welcome to Discussions,
running Windows through BootCamp on a Mac is like running Windows on any other PC.
The Mac hardware is used natively as long as there are all needed drivers installed.
Aplle provides all needed drivers together with BootCamp.
However, given the fact that the Mac Pro uses 'Workstation'-like Hardware (mainboard, CPU, RAM) it is always possible that a certain program will not run, especially when it needs some kind of Protection-Dongle.
And these dongles have to be USB-ones, because a MAc Pro don't have Parallel or Seriell-Ports.
And you should use either XP Pro with SP2 or at least Vista Business to utilize all of the four-cores of the two CPUs.
The Home versions of Windows can only use two-cores (one CPU).
Personally I would say that you won't have any difficulties, but I don't have/use the programs you mentioned.
Regards
Stefan
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Need clarification.
BootCamp makes a partition on the hard drive which can then accomodate a Windows installation. You have to have a genuine retail XP installation disk in order to install after using BootCamp to make the partition. The Leopard disk has the Apple drivers necessary for Windows to function on Apple hardware properly and is installed when booted from Windows.
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so my questions are:
how do i decide how much space should be allocated to windows and once i decide that, can i change it later ?
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now lets say i allocated 8 GB of RAM for winddows using bootcamp, does that mean that every time i log into my mac through OS, it will only be using 8GB of the total RAM ?
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2. You do not allocate Ram to Windows in Boot Camp. Windows will use all of it (64bit Windows) or 4GB (32bit Windows)
3. See 2
4. Use Boot Camp, Parallels will not allow Windows to run at full speed.
General Notes:
1. Make a complete backup of your Mac before you start! (do not skip this)
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running Windows through BootCamp on a Mac is like running Windows on any other PC.
The Mac hardware is used natively as long as there are all needed drivers installed.
Aplle provides all needed drivers together with BootCamp.
However, given the fact that the Mac Pro uses 'Workstation'-like Hardware (mainboard, CPU, RAM) it is always possible that a certain program will not run, especially when it needs some kind of Protection-Dongle.
And these dongles have to be USB-ones, because a MAc Pro don't have Parallel or Seriell-Ports.
And you should use either XP Pro with SP2 or at least Vista Business to utilize all of the four-cores of the two CPUs.
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Black screen with no cursor after installing Windows 7 through Boot Camp on Retina MBP
Hey all.
So, I have a Retina Macbook Pro (15", late 2013). A couple weeks ago I tried to install Windows 7 on it through Boot Camp.
After some struggles with trying to repair my disk with Disk Utility and having to recover the system etc, I finally managed to actually install Windows 7. However, after the installing was ready, when Windows was supposed to boot, it just gave me a black screen with no cursor. I really had no idea what to do there, I tried to do some research from google but only found answers regarding a black screen with a cursor DURING the installation. However, I managed to launch Windows in safe mode. I deleted graphics drivers that bootcamp assistant had installed, and then it worked and I got to boot Windows succesfully.
However, as probably all of you know, you can't do much without those drivers. Games, videos, overall performance of the system is kinda horrible.
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Thanks!Yes, that's exactly what was the problem in the first place, I had a USB3 device. Switched to USB2 device and the installation progress started flawlessly.
The later part I didn't quite get. What are those installation methods, how could they cause the problem there? I had no problems during the installation, but after installation when launching Windows I had the black screen, and that I suppose was GPU drivers problem if I'm not totally wrong? I could hear the basic Windows system beeps etc when I tried clicking everywhere (had no cursor either, just clicking randomly), so the system was running there, but just didn't draw the picture at all. -
I am planning to buy new PC for my faculty needs and this time I am thinking to buy Apple laptop like Mac book Pro 13" or so ( I owe already IPhone and Ipad 2)
To make final decision I need few information . These are:
1. May I use Boot Camp or similar utility software to install Windows 7 OS next to OS X Lion, or use some kind of virtual box software to create virtual machines with diverse guest OS in them like Windows , Linux etc.?
2. Does OS installed through Boot camp or in virtual machine has access and full control of the peripherals like native OS X Lion?
3. May I use the same disk partitions to access to the files regardless if I am using Windows 7 or OS X Lion operating system?
4. Is there full compatibility between Microsoft Office under OS X Lion and Windows 7 M. Office?
5. What is general user experience with OS X Lion operating system comparing to Windows 7?
Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
Adnan Sadnans wrote:
I am planning to buy new PC for my faculty needs and this time I am thinking to buy Apple laptop like Mac book Pro 13" or so ( I owe already IPhone and Ipad 2)
To make final decision I need few information . These are:
1. May I use Boot Camp or similar utility software to install Windows 7 OS next to OS X Lion, or use some kind of virtual box software to create virtual machines with diverse guest OS in them like Windows , Linux etc.?
2. Does OS installed through Boot camp or in virtual machine has access and full control of the peripherals like native OS X Lion?
3. May I use the same disk partitions to access to the files regardless if I am using Windows 7 or OS X Lion operating system?
4. Is there full compatibility between Microsoft Office under OS X Lion and Windows 7 M. Office?
5. What is general user experience with OS X Lion operating system comparing to Windows 7?
Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
Adnan S
1. Yes. You can install Windows 7 natively using Boot Camp Assistant or you can install Windows 7 in a virtual machine using Parallels, Fusion, or VirtualBox
2. If installed using Boot Camp Assistant Windows 7 uses all your computer's resources just as OSx does. If installed using a VM Windows 7 will share the computer's resources with OSx.
3. A Boot Camp partition is separate from the OSx partition. The VMs allow sharing of files across partitions since both OS are running at the same time.
4. No, not 100%.
5. Too broad a question. Be specific about what feature you are asking about or search the Internet for comparisons. I use both and find they both work well. -
I can not install xp through boot camp, the team just bought yesterday, is a macbook pro 13 when my old computer did it without problem with the same install disc
There are no XP or Vista drivers for the new Apple computer hardware. Apple stopped XP and Vista support. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4410.
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Can't install the software because it is not currently available from the Software Update server. this is the message that i get a few days now that i am trying to install windows through boot camp to my macbook!does anybody knows what i can do????
You keep it on the usb stick for after you boot into Windows. From Windows you install the Windows Support software on the stick. Do you realize that you need to buy and install Windows? The Windows Support software you downloaded is only the Windows drivers for your hardware.
Read the Boot Camp installation instructions and help guides located here: http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/ -
I need to know which update(s) I can apply to help stabalize the system.
Typing the body of the thread message in the title, huh? -)
I am working on a MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009) with boot camp running Windows 7 pro 64-bit. Windows crashes quite often now-a-days and I need to get this fixed. I heard that updating boot camp can help. Currently I am running Version 3.0.4 (322).
Only Apple could hamstring and tie Mac OS to Windows. There isn't any other than whether you can download the drivers into Windows (you can) but Apple puts a block on the installer setup even if your mac does not support it.
Windows 7 needs at least Boot Camp 3.1 and 3.3 is what you should already have. And you are not getting security updates if you don't have at least 10.6.8 as was pointed out. --- you arent using Software Update as you should. And you should backup and clone Mac (and Windows) as well.
You need Mountain Lion to use Boot Camp 5.x which supports Windows 7 & 8 and 64-bit.
I would upgrade to Lion if you can realizing that Rosetta and PowerPC are no longer supported though.
Mac 101: Using Windows on your Mac via Boot Camp
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1461
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
Helpful Apple Support Resources (Forum Overview)
Boot Camp Support
Boot Camp Manuals
Boot Camp 5.0 Drivers
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1638
Frequently asked question
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4818
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/boot_camp_install-setup_10.7.pdf
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Boot_Camp_Install-Setup_10.6.pdf
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Boot_Camp_Install-Setup_10.6.pdfcreate a Windows support software (drivers) CD or USB storage media
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4407
The Boot Camp Assistant can burn Boot Camp software (drivers) to a DVD or copy it to a USB storage device, such as a flash drive or hard drive. These are the only media you can use to install Boot Camp software.
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4569
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/boot_camp_install-setup_10.8.pdf
Instructions for all features and settings.
Boot Camp 4.0 FAQ Get answers to commonly asked Boot Camp questions.
Windows 7 FAQ Answers to commonly asked Windows 7 questions.
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
Is there a download of the Boot Camp 5 Support Software if I'm not using OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3?
Yes, you can download the Boot Camp 5 Support Software here.
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1638
How do I use the Boot Camp 5 Support Software I downloaded from the web page?
The download file is a .zip file. Double click it to uncompress it.
Double-click the Boot Camp disk image.
Copy the Boot Camp and "$WinPEDriver$" folders to the root level of a USB flash drive or hard drive that is formatted with the FAT file system (see question below for steps on how to format).
Install Windows, leaving the flash or hard drive attached to the USB port of your Mac.
Installation of the drivers can take a few minutes. Don't interrupt the installation process. A completion dialog box will appear when everything is installed. Click Finish when the dialog appears.
When your system restarts your Windows 8 installation is done.
Note: If the flash drive or hard drive was not attached when you installed Windows and was inserted after restarting into Windows 8, double-click the Boot Camp folder, then locate and double click the "setup.exe" file to start the installation of the Boot Camp 5 Support Software.
How do I format USB media to the FAT file system?
Use Disk Utility to format a disk to use with a Windows computer. Here's how:
Important: Formatting a disk erases all the files on it. Copy any files you want to save to another disk before formatting the disk.
Open Disk Utility.
Select the disk you want to format for use with Windows computers.
Click Erase, and choose one of the following from the Format pop-up menu:
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If the size of the disk is over 32 GB, choose ExFAT.
Type a name for the disk. The maximum length is 11 characters.
Click the Erase button and then click Erase again.
Which versions of Windows are supported with Boot Camp 5?
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I just bought a 2013 late model Mac Book Pro Retina and am wondering if it is worth installing windows through boot camp.
If I install the windows component in order to run an exe file and its component "Declans Korean Flash Cards"... will it make my mac suseptible to viruses overall due to having a windows component? also will it make my mac slower as wellIf you are only going to use one or two window only programs then I wouldn't waste the space. Try WinonX it allows you to install exe. Files on Mac without installing windows.
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How do you use a dmg file image to download windows through boot camp?
after reaching my limits in finding the answer to this problem/question i have, i finally decided to post it for everyone to feel my pain
so i dont know if i would be spanked or something but i downloaded a windows xp sp3 from the internet through torrent
it was originally an iso file so i changed it to a dmg by using disk utility
now heres the problem:
after that, i opened the dmg file image and mounted the virtual drive
then when i started up the boot camp installation and clicked the "Start Installation" after about fifteen seconds it said that it couldn't find any disk installers!
AARRGG
it would be awesome if someone could help me
and this other question that i did not mention above is:
when you run windows xp on Parallels, is it slower than when you use windows on a PC or through boot camp?
thanks and hope you have a nice dayHi and welcome to Discussions,
so i dont know if i would be spanked or something but i downloaded a windows xp sp3 from the internet through torrent
I don't spank you for that but I also don't comment on it as maybe this post will be deleted soon !
it was originally an iso file so i changed it to a dmg by using disk utility
now heres the problem:
after that, i opened the dmg file image and mounted the virtual drive
then when i started up the boot camp installation and clicked the "Start Installation" after about fifteen seconds it said that it couldn't find any disk installers!
The BootCamp Assistant requires Windows to be on a bootable CD/DVD and will not work with any kind of images, iso or dmg.
when you run windows xp on Parallels, is it slower than when you use windows on a PC or through boot camp?
Yes, since it is not running 'natively' , using the real hardware, but it is running on a virtualized environment.
How much slower really depends on the kind of programs you use in Windows, with typical Business/Office programs you might not even notice any slower performance, but with programs that depend on having access to the 'real' hardware, you will notice the slowness often right down to be un-useable.
thanks and hope you have a nice day
You too
Stefan -
Not seeing an external HD in windows through boot camp ...
Last week I ran boot camp with a (200GB) external hard drive and was able to see the hard drive in both windows and mac. This week I had the HD enclosure fail, put the HD in a new case, reformatted it as Mac OS X (Journaled) and was back in business ... on the Mac side.
Windows no longer sees the external as part of 'My Computer' - even though it shows in the device manager and says it is 'working properly'. Not remembering how I formatted the first time around when everything was working together, should it be viewable as a Mac Journaled drive? Does everything have to be FAT ... drive and windows?
Just looking for some confirmation on whether to reinstall boot camp, or transfer the drive contents and reformat that ... either one is going to take a long time ... and perhaps I just need to do both.
I know the boot camp information stated Mac would not be able to read or write to the windows side as NTFS ... and I'm ok with that - I just want the hard drive to work with both sides.Hi and welcome to Discussions,
Windows can not see or use harddisk or partitions on harddisks that use the Mac OSX Extended (journaled) file system.
It's a limitation of Windows and has nothing to do with BootCamp.
Windows can see/use its own file system (FAT32 and NTFS).
Mac OSX can read/write from/to FAT32 partitions, but can only read from NTFS partitions.
So FAT32 would be your first choice for file system to access the external HD from both OSX and Windows.
However FAT32 has a built-in single-file size limitation of 4GB.
Depending on your useage of the external HD there are several solutions:
1. leave it as Mac OSX Extended and get MacDrive for read/write access from Windows.
2. use FAT32 (called MS-DOS in OSX Disk Utility) as file system, if you can live with the file-size limitation
3. use NTFS as file system and get Paragons NTFS for OSX for read and write access from OSX
4. partition the external HD with two partitions, one for OSX and one for Windows
http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive/
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/
Regards
Stefan
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