About BPM

Hi All,
Can any body suggest me in what situation we use Business Process Management. Main purpose i want not the all
Regards,
Prem.S

Hi
this is when you need bpm
when you need to wait for two different types of messages to arrive and then send out another message of a 3rd type, or when you need to wait for a series of messages to arrive, and combine them into a single message to be sent out.
regards
krishna

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Dear BPM Experts:
I meet a problem with BPM capacity problem. My customer using BPM 11g and every day they
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We have done a test about BPM capacity, I create a new simple process named simpleProcess.
which only have three input field, I use API to initiate the task and submit to the next
person.
we using dev_soainfra tablespace, and we set the default audit level, after insert 5000 task, we find dev_soainfra is reach 362.375M,
So as assume 30000 task will using 362*6=2G database spaces,and because in next phases,my customer want
To push BPM platform to more customers, which means more and more customer will using this platform,so
I want to ask is it data increase reasonable? Do you have capacity planning guide for BPM 11g? and If I want to reduce
Lower The data increase, how can we do?
We have try to turn the audit log off, but it seems useless, it only save 8% spaces.
Thanks for your help!
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It looks like you are writing your data to disk every so often. For that reason, I recommend making it based on the number of samples you have instead of the time. With that you can preallocate your arrays with constants going into the shift registers. You then use Replace Array Subset to update your arrays. When you write to the file, make sure you go back to overwriting the beginning of your array. This will greatly reduce the amount of time you spend reallocating memory and will reduce your memory usage.
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Information about BPM

Hi Experts,
I am new to BPM. Past I worked on Dynpro with JAVA only. Now I am assign to BPM Application. So I need Some Information about BPM. We are using CE 7.1
1.     What is BPM? What is Use of BPM?
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3.     What is the advantages and disadvantages in BPM?
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Let's start from here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/8e/116642a3423654e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
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Edited by: user12437050 on 2010-1-11 下午10:09

The data of the instances that is what you are asking for (value of a variable of an specific instance) is stored in the engine database. The runtime information (instances) is stored there.
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I'm very very new to Oracle BPM.
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Hi is it possible for experts here to validate,
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/people/sriram.vasudevan3/blog/2005/03/18/points-to-ponder-over-while-considering-webservices-implementations-vis-a-vis-eai
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/people/siva.maranani/blog/2005/03/01/testing-xi-exposed-web-services
/people/sap.user72/blog/2006/01/16/xi-propagation-of-meaningful-error-information-to-soap-client
/people/kausik.medavarapu/blog/2005/12/29/csv-file-lookup-with-http-request-and-response-in-xi
/people/thomas.jung3/blog/2005/06/05/web-services-the-case-of-the-missing-soap-action-header
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/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/21/using-the-soap-inbound-channel-of-the-integration-engine
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/21/using-the-soap-inbound-channel-of-the-integration-engine
/people/community.user/blog/2006/09/19/xi-webservice-studio--a-plain-jane-soap-tool
/people/community.user/blog/2006/10/24/exposing-bapi-as-web-services-through-sap-xi
/people/bhavesh.kantilal/blog/2006/11/20/webservice-calls-from-a-user-defined-function
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Serious issue about BPM initiator

I have a process with a human task with type initiate. The main problem is that allways partipator click on the application on bpm workspace, its create a new task! without any kind of submit. Is that correct? Why to create a new task even if I close the dialog???

LOL when I try to open my process on IDE it occurs:
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j.a.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:161)
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how can i define a compensate handling for a certain step which has been executed successfull in process editor?
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thanx!
Message was edited by:
joy zheng

right now there is no feature to undo a successful process step in BPM.
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Thanks all.

Hi !
switch: is like a CASE statement. Depending on a condition, the execution will flow across the right path/branch. Only one branch will execute.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/6a/db283fd0ca8443e10000000a114084/content.htm
fork: it executes all branches independently at same time and has an end condition, for example, wait until are branches are executed.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/24/e2283f2bbad036e10000000a114084/content.htm
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