About business system

while creating a business system.
there is the logical system name at step 2,
there is the business system name at step 3.
what do they feature respective and difference between logical system name and business system name?

Hi,
Business Sytem is the service fro sender system or receiver system and Logical system is the system name where u want to send the data.
suppose ur doing a snerio File to IDOC then that SAP Sytem logical system name SAP100 that sholud be given in Business system,if u dont give then data will not pass.
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Phani
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Business system and technical system in XI

Hi to all
Iam new to XI. I what to know about business system and technical system in XI.
and when does we go to configure a business system and technical system .
with regards
satish.

hi,
in terms of R3
technical system is the server
business system is a client
you can find more about those two in:
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2006/10/11/xi-new-book-mastering-idoc-business-scenarios-with-sap-xi">Mastering IDoc Business Scenarios with SAP XI</a>
how to register R3 technical system - have a look at my blog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/03/10/registering-a-new-technical-system-in-sld--abap-based
Regards,
michal
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions">XI / PI FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions</a>

What does the table save business system informations?

Hi...
When we create or change the business system in SLD,
What table does the information about business system save in the database?
Thank you..

Hi,
There is no direct way but u can get it:
Go to SXMB_MONI. when u run the scenario it has all the information about Sender,receiver systen and interface information,
But this information is message specific.
U can get all the details from.
SXMB_GET_MESSAGE_LIST through which you can get the messages in SXMB_MONI.
refer the below thread:
SXMB_MONI transaction table
chirag
Edited by: Chirag Gohil on Apr 10, 2008 11:49 AM

About ABAP Technical Systems and Business Systems

Hi experts,
I have an Integration scenary with XI and an R3 vía RFC. I've already created it in the development environment and when I'm going to transport to Consolidation and Production I find that the ABAP Business System related to the ABAP Technical System of the R3 have a different name from the development one.
In the Integration Repository everything its OK because my scenario is developped on a third party system BS and TS. The problem is in the Directory because of the BS of the Message interfaces....
I think that transport Directory scenario with .tpt wont work. I'll probably have to develop it in each environment... What do you think?
Regards
Gonzalo

This is what you need to do to move from Dev to QA.
1. Go to Dev SLD and Export all your SWCV, Products, Technical and Business Systems. This is nothing but saving of the SLD objects as a CIM file on your local machine. You would also need to export the Technical And Business System poitning to your XI integration server .
2. Go to the QA SLD and then import these objects exported in Step 1 in QA SLD
3. Now, create the QA Tech and Business Systems in the QA SLD
4. Go to the Dev Business systems imported on the QS SLD and you will have an option Transport Targets. In this map the Source Business System to the Target Business Systems.
Make sure that all Dev Business Systems have the correspodning Transport Targets for the QA Business SYstems
5. Now if you import the ID objects in QA , the business systems name will be renamed automatically.
Regards
Bhavesh

About business service and business system

before,i used business service.
i can add inbound and outbound interface at sender tab page and receiver tab page of business service entry in ID.
now,i am using business system.
i can not add inbound and outbound interface at sender tab page and receiver tab page of business system entry in ID.
i am confused.
my swcv design.like this: A_, AND I_ .
I_ depends A_. that is: A_ swcv contains same namesapce with I_ swcv in "basis object" entry.
i want to use the interface of A_ swcv instead of I_ swcv.
but i can only find out the interface of I_ swcv on the sender tab page and receiver tab page of business system entry in ID.
actually, i want to use the interface of A_ swcv. intead of the interface of I_ swcv.
how can i make it?

- In SLD while creating the BusinessSystem, the I_SWCV is assigned to it. That is the reason you can able to see the interface of I_SWCV. Assign the A_SWCV to the Business System in SLD, you can able to see interfaces of that too.
Assign the A_SWCV to the Business System .
i wanna find out the interface of "basis object" of A_SWCV. but i can not.
may be since it is not really within A_SWCV of the interface of "basis object" of A_SWCV.
actually. it is within I_SWCV.
you got me?
is that so?

Questions about XI ADD-ON and BUSINESS SYSTEM

Hello,
Is it possible that somebody validate these point ?
I want to use ABAP proxy in a SAP 4.7 (WAS 6.20) to communicate with a SAP XI 2.0, for that i should configure my SAP 4.7 as a business system and i should install the XI ADD-ON APPINT right ?
Is it possible to do that if my SAP 4.7 is an non unicode system ?
Is it possible to do that if my SAP 4.7 is an ORACLE version ?
Best regards,
Vincent LECONTE

Hello!
> I want to use ABAP proxy in a SAP 4.7 (WAS 6.20) to
> communicate with a SAP XI 2.0, for that i should
> configure my SAP 4.7 as a business system and i
> should install the XI ADD-ON APPINT right ?
Correct.
> Is it possible to do that if my SAP 4.7 is an non
> unicode system ?
> Is it possible to do that if my SAP 4.7 is an ORACLE
> version ?
This should be possible, we have installed the XI ADD-ON on a non-Unicode Oracle WAS 6.20 system and it can communicate with XI 2.0 using ABAP proxies.
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Business Systems and Business Service - does any difference

Hi Experts,
Could any one please guide me what is the difference between
Business Systems
and
Business Service.
Which situations we use Business Systems / Business Service.
Does it have any performance issues?
Why we are not configuring Business service in SLD?
Cheers Experts!!
Sunil

Hi Sunil,
Business System: Address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system
(service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software
component versions of the business system. The business system services are used when
configuring internal company processes.
Business Systems are Logical Senders or Receivers that exchange messages by using the Integration
Server and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The Business Systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The Business Systems of business partners are therefore not entered in the System Landscape
Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use communication components in
the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a communication component in the
Integration Directory more precisely (business system component).
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies
involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces. The business services are used when
configuring cross-company processes.
In the PCK, the Service is of type Business Service. It represents an abstract, addressable unit.
Business services are used in cross-company processes, for example, if the parties involved have only
published their interfaces and not their system landscape, or it is only partly known.
Using a Business Service,we can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved
and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
It is useful to use Business Services when configuring cross-company processes. Usually, the
interface descriptions of the business partners involved are made publicly available.
Also,There is already lot of thread regarding the same discussion, please see it below.
Business service or Business system??
Re: Business Service <--> Business System
Difference between Business service, Business system and Business process
Business Service vs Business System in Integration Directory.
Business Service (vs) Business System in Integration Directory.
What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?
business system and business service
Diff b/w Business service & Business System?
Regards,
Vinod.

Parties, Business Systems and Business Services

Hi guys,
I've read a lot about items in subject, but have some doubts about applying them to my scenario. I have to integrate SAP system and web service.
As far as I understand concepts, this is B2B communication, so I have to use parties. To represent SAP system I use Business System, as it's described ins SLD, and for Web service I use Business Service... just as we use business services for web services
--- Am I right here? Will it work ok in reciever determination, agreement?
Thank you.

Hi,
You are doing the usage of business systems and services in proper way.
The scenario will difinately work with combination of business system and service.
It will be fine for all other configurations such as Receiver Determination, Sender/receiver agreements and interface determination etc.
Please see below the importance of Parties, Business Systems and Business Services
A communication party
A communication party (party for short) represents a larger unit, which is involved in a collaborative process. Using a communication party, you generally address a company within a cross-company process.
You can assign a communication party one or more services to address it as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system
If you want to address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system (service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software component versions of the business system.
You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
A business service
If you want to address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
You usually use business services when configuring cross-company processes. In this case, you only make your interfaces known to the business partners involved and either do not make any details about your own system landscape available, or only specific details.
For example, you can define RosettaNet Partner Interface Processes (PIPs) as business services.
Thanks
Swarup

Technical systems and Business systems in SAP XI

can any one tell me ,breifly explain the diff b/w Technical Systems & Business Systems?
steps to create Techincal system and Business systems?
and also Steps for creating Software Components? For Technical System we can create more than one Business systems ,what it means?can any one explain?

Hi
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
U can also refer Blog's
Re: Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
For creation of software component see link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3172d290-0201-0010-2b80-c59c8292dcc9
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Can there be more than one transport targets for a business system in sld

Hi All,
I have a question about transport targets in sld for sap xi 3.0 sp19.
We have a requirement where a business system needs to have two transport targets.In SLD i see that only one transport target can be assigned. Is there any way to assign more than one transport target to a business system?
I know that there can be more than one source for a business system where more than one different business systems have the same business system as the target.
I am not sure if a business system can have more than one transport target .If yes , what is the way to add more than one ?
Please help .
Thanks,
Padmaja

Hello,
I know that there can be more than one source for a business system where more than one different business systems have the same business system as the target.
As far as I know, you would have to change the target everytime you will transport it to a different target e.g 3 target systems = 3 times you change the transport target in SLD.
Regards,
Mark

Error while reading ID of own business system from the SLD for system

Dear all,
We running on a SAP PI 7.1 enhancement pack 1.I know that there some threads about this subject, but unfortunately all suggestions found so far didn't solve my problem:
- SLDCHECK reports no errors
- SLAPICUST: pointing to the SLD
- SXI_CACHE with full refresh: no result.
Does anyone have a clue for me?
Kind regards,
John.

I hope you are facing this prolem with one particular Business System.. Since you have checked all the points and still facing this issue then try below options..
1. First try to clear full SLD cache and then test.
2. If cache doesn't solve the issue then delete the Business System from SLD and Integration Directory first then re-create the BS in SLD and "Clear SLD Data Cache" from "Environment" menu in Integration Directory and then import the Business System and test your scenario.

Creation of technical system and business system

Hi Guys,
Im just a beginner in SAP XI..I would like to know what will be the setup in my SLD .
My data will be coming from MS SQL and will transfer it to SAP R/3.
Is it true that I need to setup the Technical system , one for my Sender (data coming from sql ) and
one for my Receiver (data will transfer to SAP R/3).
about the Business system? do i need to create buss system for Sender and receiver?
Please help.
Thanks in advance.
aVaDuDz

Hi,
you don't have to create technical system for R/3 you should better use tcode RZ70 for selfregistering:
The specified item was not found.
And for this technical system you should create also a business system.
You should create a technical and business system for your MS SQL if it's inside of your system landscape.
Here is a good explanation:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi71/helpdata/en/43/01ea90ab24235de10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
Regards
Patrick
Edited by: Patrick Koehnen on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 AM

PI 7.1 ,Business component and business system.

Hi Everybody,
Can you please tell me when should we use a business component and when to use a business system
thanks a lot,
Ramya Shenoy

Hi Ramya,
A common question :)..if you search sdn you will know more about this
Business system : Use when you know the end system (like system name, ip etc). Generally ECC, R3, JDBC systems wtc..
Business service : When you know that it is a file or htto system but dont have their details.. Generally Soap, HTTP, File etc...
Regards
Suraj

Business System in XI not able to attach Receiver/Sender interfaces.

I understand the difference between Business System and a Business Service (as I can read sap help and the previous posts on this subject thankyou).
I have a 3rd Party Warehouse system (Manhattan).
I have defined this in the SLD and imported this into XI as a Business System. As that seemed like the correct way rather than simply just defining it as a Business Service.
I have used this in various configurations and it seems fine.
But check this out.
If in XI Configurator you go into the Business System it is not possible to attach Receiver and Sender Interfaces to it like you would for a Business Service. This means that everytime you want to use an Interface you have to do a search all instead of just being able to picking it up off the ones defined against the System (like you can for a Business Service).
This is a little annoying and I wonder if I am doing something wrong.

Hi,
So how do I assign my SWCV to a Technical System in the SLD?
While configuring technical system in sld it will ask about the details of product and its software component version.
Maybe these steps may help you.
Choose New Technical System.
The browser displays the screen Technical System Wizard in a separate window.
       2.      Select Third-Party, and then choose next.
       3.      Enter the system name and the host name of the system, and then choose Next.
The browser displays all the registered SAP product versions in the list Available Products.
       4.      Select the SAP products that are installed in the third-party system, and then choose Add.
On the lower part of the screen, the browser displays a list of all the software components that are contained in the selected products.
Repeat this step as many times as necessary until you have added all products.
To remove a product, select it in the list, and then choose Remove.
You can add more products to this system at a later stage.
       5.      Select the software components that are actually installed in the system.
       6.      Choose Finish.
The SLD server has now registered the new third-party system.
Regards,
Pradeep A.

Business Service -- Business System

Hi all,
I've read several tutorials about scenarios in XI and have seen that sometimes business services are used and in some cases they use business systems to implement a communication partner. When do I use business services and when do I use business systems?
Thanks in advance and regards,
Marc

Hi Marc,
You use a Business Service, when you do not have the System details of the the partner system to which you want to communicate. i.e. you have not configured the partner system in SLD.
Business System is always configured in SLD and you use it when you have all the data you need to connect to the partner system
Michal: correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
Padmaja

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