ABOUT CAMERA RAW...

...for some reason my version of CS4 did not instal this. I can't open RAW files is PS. Any suggestions?

I can't open RAW files is PS.
Like Jeff pointed out that statement might not be sufficient – what kind of RAW-files are you talking about?
Or have you actually tried with multiple formats?
And have you tried converting them with the free Adobe DNG Converter?
That is supposed to get updated for new camera types whereas ACR for CS4 is out of the loop, as far as I know.

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QQ about Camera Raw Cache and why mine is empty

Quick question about Camera Raw Cache:
Mine is empty. Always.
I've read that the Develop module stores information on photos it opens in the Camera Raw Cache, while the Library module stores its previews in the LRDATA directory adjacent to the Lightroom Catalog. I've also read that the former can be stored anywhere and is limited to a size specified in Preferences, while the latter must accompany the Catalog file and has no cap on its size.
So why is my Camera Raw Cache always empty? I go in and out of the Develop module, edit, switch among photos within Develop, view images at 1:1 and larger within Develop, etc. Shouldn't that cause cache entries to be generated in the Camera Raw Cache? I've tried moving my Camera Raw Cache from within Preferences, and I have the size of the cache set to 30 GB with plenty of room on the drive, but it's still always empty.

Ah, yes. I shoot only JPGs. Funny how none of the documentation or tutorials mention that. The ones I've seen all imply that Lightroom uses Raw format internally when editing photos and that's why it needs a Camera Raw Cache for holding those internal files in the Develop module. I thought whenever I opened a photo in Develop, Lightroom was converting my JPGs interally to a proprietary Camera Raw format for editing them. Guess not, then.
So where does Lightroom hold all of its internal files for JPGs that I'm editing in the Develop module? Does it use the same files it generates in the Library module for 1:1 previews? (That's so different from what the tutorials say -- for example, around 11:00 on Julieanne Kost's tutorial on optimizing Lightroom, she never says she's only talking about working with Raw format.)

Gripe about Camera Raw Update & Adobe in General

I love what Adobe products do, but hate the rigamorale you have to go through to get them to work.
I bought a new Canon T2i and it wasn't supported. So I tried updating. The Adobe Application Updates manager doesn't work. I then tried the installer. It fires up the Adobe Application Updates Manager which didn't work. I uninstalled CS5, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted and it still doesn't work. Finally got it to work. I found & got the zip file & replaced the old "Camera Raw.8bi" at C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CS5\File Formats.
In retrospect though I spent several hours working on this and got angrier and angrier at Adobe as my morning progressed. I noted that this issue (updating Camera Raw) is at the top of Adobe's list of support problems.
Several years ago Netscape sued Microsoft because IE was bundled with the OS and, thus, Netscape couldn't compete on a level playing field. One of Microsoft's counter arguments was that a user could uninstall IE. The process was so convoluted that the judge rejected Microsoft's argument.
Getting Adobe software to work is very time consuming and convoluted. We buy the tools for workflow productivity then have to deal with the getting them to work in the first place. And to add insult to injury, after paying through the nose for our software, Adobe charges us for support for their mistakes. And this is the third crash I've experienced in 6 months. I'm a struggling, sole owner, photographer and resent the time sink that dealing with Adobe software involves.
Adobe, are you listening? I don't think I'm the only customer ticked off at these neverending problems.
Microsoft Sharepoint Designer 2010 no longer supports ftp. As a replacement I was thinking of replacing my Microsoft Sharepoint Designer 2007 with Dreamweaver. After my experience with Photoshop I'm going to hobble along on Microsoft Sharepoint Designer 2007 as long as I can and hope Microsoft adds ftp to future products or a good alternative to Adobe and Microsoft exists.
Jim

The version of ACR indicated in LR's help/about is the version of the RAW engine internal to LR, and not the version of ACR you actually have installed for Photoshop.
What does CS4 / Help / About Plug-ins / Camera RAW say the version is? And are there two versions of Camera RAW listed in the About Plug-ins.
Maybe there are multiple versions of ACR installed and LR is finding an old one, or perhaps LR is opening a file that was originally opened in a prior version of ACR/LR and LR can tell this by looking at the XMP or the LR database so is warning it may not be compatible even though it probably wouldn't matter. I don't have a Mac nor CS4, yet, so can only guess.

Lightroom warning about Camera Raw update I already have

When trying to open a RAW picture into Photoshop from Lightroom 2.2, it is giving me the following warning:
This version of Lightoom may require the Photoshop Camera Raw plug-in version 5.2 for full compatibility. Please update the Camera Raw plug-in using the update tool available in the Photoshop help menu.
Thing is, I've already installed Camera Raw 5.2. If I open up the About Lightroom window, it tells me that I'm using Camera Raw 5.2.
Do I need to put a copy of the Camera Raw plugin somewhere else than where it is?
I'm using Lightroom 2.2, Photoshop CS4 Extended, on a MacPro w/ Leopard 10.5.6.

The version of ACR indicated in LR's help/about is the version of the RAW engine internal to LR, and not the version of ACR you actually have installed for Photoshop.
What does CS4 / Help / About Plug-ins / Camera RAW say the version is? And are there two versions of Camera RAW listed in the About Plug-ins.
Maybe there are multiple versions of ACR installed and LR is finding an old one, or perhaps LR is opening a file that was originally opened in a prior version of ACR/LR and LR can tell this by looking at the XMP or the LR database so is warning it may not be compatible even though it probably wouldn't matter. I don't have a Mac nor CS4, yet, so can only guess.

Question about camera raw. Need to edit Canon 60D Raw files in CS5.

I downloaded the program camera raw. folder could not find the installer program. I do not know how to install the camera raw.in the past with these programs had no problems. what version of the program is suitable for Photoshop cs5 and camera canon 60d?

canon eos 60D needs cr 6.2 or better.
ps cs5 can be updated to 6.7 so you should be ok.
the best way to update is to click help>update in photoshop.

I have a question about Camera Raw plug in list Nikon D750

My new camera Nikon D750 is not listed in the Camera Raw plug in List. Does this mean that photoshop does not support these NEF files?

It's included in the 8.7 RC
Technology pages:
CC - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw8-7-cc/
CS6 - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw8-7/
Download pages:
CC - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/cameraraw8-7-cc.html
CS6 - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/cameraraw8-7.html

Two questions about Camera Raw and Lightroom

I am now shooting in RAW image format only and cataloging those images into Lightroom.
My first question is: How do I open an image in Camera Raw from Lightroom? When I right click on an image in Lightroom it gives me a choice to edit in > Photoshop, but does not offer the choice of editing in Camera Raw. In fact, when I go outside of Lightroom and just double-click on one of those RAW images, it opens in Photoshop. What is going on? Before I installed Lightroom, double-clicking on a RAW file would cause it to open in Camera RAW.
My second question is: Lightroom seems to have all of the same controls over processing a RAW image as the Camera Raw plug-in does. Does that mean I no longer need to open images in Camera Raw? Should I just do all of my adjustments inside of Lightroom? I take it that the sidecar xmp file is the same whether modified in Lightroom or in Camera Raw.
Pleas set me straight on this.
Thank You,
Ken

Your second question:
My second question is: Lightroom seems to have all of the same controls over processing a RAW image as the Camera Raw plug-in does.
Answers your first. Lightroom and ACR share code, so the rendering you get from Lightroom with the same settings is exactly the same as in ACR. What happens is that when you say "edit in Photoshop", ACR gets called by Lightroom and the Develop settings get passed along. ACR then renders the RAW with those settings and opens it in Photoshop. So, because you already have a working interface to the settings, there is no point in showing them to you again.
Does that mean I no longer need to open images in Camera Raw? Should I just do all of my adjustments inside of Lightroom?
That depends on your workflow. I no longer open any images in ACR directly as Lightroom provides a more effective interface in my opinion. Other people I'm sure prefer the Bridge/ACR approach.
I take it that the sidecar xmp file is the same whether modified in Lightroom or in Camera Raw.
Lightroom does not modify the sidecars by default. All edits are stored in the database. This allows you to have virtual copies with different Develop settings and more tricks like that. You can have Lightroom write out xmp sidecars by choosing "save metadata to file" from the metadata menu in Library or by turning on automatic xmp file generation in preferences. There is usually no real point to doing that however as the "edit in Photoshop" route works just fine. It's only really useful when you have a mixed workflow that still uses Bridge. If you share images with others, you're better off exporting dngs, or exporting subsets of images as catalogs with the images included.

Why Lightroom + Photoshop? And what about Camera Raw ??

Please tell me if I need Lightroom along with Photoshop? I'm confused. I use Photoshop every day for editing photos, etc. I used Bridge daily as well. And, often Camera Raw. Do I still need Lightroom?
Thank you.

The key word here is, "need". All of the Camera Raw capabilities are part of Lightroom. You can do the same raw processing with either program. The difference is in the user interface and workflow. Personally, I prefer Lightroom to Camera Raw. But I'm sure you will find that opinions vary. You can download the trial version of Lightroom and use it for 30 days and see how it integrates with Photoshop. Then maybe you can decide for yourself. I suspect, however, since you are accustomed to using Photoshop and Camera Raw that you will probably feel that Lightroom just gets in the way. I didn't like Lightroom when I first started using it. But it is my favorite postprocessing software now.

About camera raw image files

This question was posted in response to the following article: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/photoshopelements/using/WS287f927bd30d4b1f5548d97812e28a69a90- 7ffe.html

Move what? Do you mean how do you save the edited file as an image to use elsewhere? Click the Open button and save the file in the editor in the image format of your choice.

Adobe Bridge in Photoshop - How to install Bridge and camera raw? And what is it all about?

Hi everyone! I am actually in love with this adobe photoshop. I used PSCS2 before, but later on upgraded to CS4. But I feel tired in upgrading to CS5.
One time, I found a tutorial in youtube about camera raw, and would really want to use it. But I was wondering how to install the camera raw. I believe camera raw is a plugin? so I downloaded the plugin here, installed it in my PS. I downloaded a file Camera Raw.8bi and paste it on my C drive - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop CS4\Plug-ins\File Formats.
I now am very confused, how will I open it? I do not have adobe bridge! After I installed the camera raw, I opened my PS. I clicked the file>then browse in bridge. I had an error, it's "error 2 photoshop11 undefined". Which is what I thought, I might have done something wrong with installing it.
My question is, do you still need adobe bridge installed in order to use camera raw?
If yes, how does it work? How am I suppose to open camera raw?
If no, how am I going to open camera raw without bridge?
And also, where will I download adobe bridge? I cannot find one here for CS4, only adobe bridge for CS5. I am wondering, is it okay to install adobe bridge CS5 and use it with my PS CS4?
I badly need help!

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The main difference from FTP as far as I can see is that it allows you to edit documents on a remote web server.
WebDAV was used by the Apple server - MobileMe but is not generally supported by hosting services.
Using WebDAV you can mount a directory locally. This was how iDisk worked on your Mac and you could drag files onto it to upload them to the remote directory.
With WebDAV, a number of users can share a directory which is why its used in local networks but presents security problems when using a remote server.
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Camera Raw, What Is It? Where Is It? Demystify Please

I'm told by Lightroom that I have an older version of Camera Raw but it no longer gives me that message on startup because I probably checked the box that said don't remind me again.
In the interest of learning more about Camera Raw I need to know:
Is it an application? - I don't see it in the applications folder (Mac)
Is it a plug-in module? - I don't see it in the Photoshop plug-ins folder.
Where does it reside? - I did a Spotlight search of my entire system and the only things that came up for Camera Raw are some folders in Library>Application support and a bunch of pdf files.
I need to tell which version I have but can't do that until I find it - whatever it is.
My next question has to do with lightroom: Does Lightroom use Camera Raw (I'm gathering it does if it recognizes I have an older version). Is Camera Raw the machine that operates behind the curtain of 'Develop?'
If I knew the answer to just these few basic things, I think I could understand a lot more about how Lightroom operates in Develop mode.
TIA,
Ken

Thanks for the info ssprengel,
So, it it is a plug-in that Photoshop uses; (I have CS3 with Photoshop Extended) why is it not in the plug-ins folder for Photoshop?
Why does it not update automatically like every other Adobe product I have does on a regular basis? My CS3 Photoshop has updated but why would the Camera Raw plug-in be ignored?
Also, If Lightroom uses the Camera Raw engine, doesn't that mean that it should not be concerned with what plug-in I have for Photoshop? That part just does not make sense to me.
"You should keep ACR up-to-date with LR to avoid making adjustments in LR that ACR cannot perform." --- Aha!, so that means that there are TWO Camera Raw engines working, one built into Lightroom and one floating around in the system somewhere? (I have not located yet.) And these TWO Camera Raw (one internal to Lightroom and one a plug-in for Photoshop?) need to be kept in sync with same version number?
I'm going to now go into Photoshop and see if I can update the Camera Raw plug-in from there as you recommend.
Thanks,
Ken
Okay, I am back from running update, all of my software is up to date. The problem is that I have CS3 and the newer versions of Camera Raw beyond 4.x are only compatible with CS4. Because of the ailing economy right now I will have to be lop-sided on Camera Raw it looks like.
Will I be okay if I just do not use Photoshop Camera Raw and only use Lightroom 2.4? or should I de-grade back to an older version of Lightroom? (I don't like that idea.)

Unable to open Camera Raw 6.7 from Bridge CS5

I am unable to view the RAW images that were taken on my D90 in Bridge CS5. They show up blank with the Camera Raw logo in the center and "NEF" in the upper left hand corner. This is the first time this problem has occured because I was (and still) able to view RAW images taken from my old D40. I have tried everything including updating my Camera Raw to version 6.7.0.339, but to no avail! I have no error messages, btw. I am operating Bridge and Photoshop CS5 on Windows 7 (32-bit). I found this thread, and it seems extremely helpful, but it's for Mac users: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2842306

All you need to do now is to refresh (purge) the cache. Everything is fine with your install.
That the right version of the ACR Plug-in is installed in the correct location is proven by the screen shot of the "About Camera Raw" splash screen. It would not show up in "About Plug-in" if it were not in the correct location.
I also take it only one instance of Camera Raw shows up in your list.
I see absolutely nothing in your first screen shot that would prevent you from sliding your mouse over to the "Purge Cache for This Folder" menu command and then letting go of the mouse. That's all it takes. That menu item does not appear to be grayed out. The only thing that is not clear is whether you do in fact have a folder selected.
The reason you see the generic NEF icons without preview is that the cache for that folder was built when you still had an older version of ACR that did not support your camera. That's why the cache needs to be purged (refreshed) now.
Humor me for a second and perform the following experiment: Select all the generic icons you see in the Content panel in Bridge and right-click on them in order to call the "Purge Cache for Selection" command you had discovered earlier and mentioned in a previous post. You should see the icons turn into thumbnails before your eyes.
Now you can just use the "Purge Cache for this Folder" command on any other folder containing generic NEF icons without having to select the individual icons at all.
If you already have a bunch of folders harboring generic NEF icons, go ahead and use the central Purge Cache command in Bridge preferences to purge the entire Bridge cache on your disk in one fell swoop.
Hope this helps. Let me know.
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Bridge CS3 and Camera Raw

Hello, I have Bridge CS3 that came with Adobe Web Standard that I bought when I have doing web design. I also have Photoshop CS that I use for my camera digital editing. At a camera club today they were using Bridge and Photoshop CS5 to show what it can do. The man completing the demo said that Camera Raw was inbuilt into Bridge and that I should have it. I've been using Adobe DNG convertor for my RAW editing as I didn't know nothing about Camera Raw but seeing it in action and how much better it is over the DNG I want to use that instead.
I've searched high and low for Camera Raw on my PC but I cannot find it. I've tried downloading it from here but it says No and to quit.
My RAW files have the .DNG extension if that makes a difference.
So, am I missing Camera Raw and if so, how can I get it :?:
Thanks

You can download the latest update of ACR for your software version here....
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=39&platform=Windows
After you click on the version you want it will take you to a page with installation instructions.

Camera Raw Editing is not enabled strikes again

Hello everyone, I've always open raw files from bridge in ACR, since last evening, suddenly, while I am trying to open an image in camera raw I keep getting an error message that reads " Camera Raw editing is not enabled. Camera Raw editing required that a qualifying product has been launched at least once to enable this feature." At last I cannot open files in ACR from Bridge at all. After a search in the net I've seen that it seems to be a rather common trouble but none of the solutions I've found (I've read of all in this forum) works for me. Did someone found a final solution to it? Im going crazy traying to understand what is that qualifying product in the message.
Regards
Marco

FWIW, this has happened to me twice as a result of a nightmare computer upgrade. I had to change my motherboard and CPU several times and twice, these different combinations caused Adobe activation to become confused. I got an error about number of activations exceeded and also this error about Camera Raw editing is not enabled. How I solved it:
a) Called Adobe Support who were able to reset the number of activations, activated Creative Suite.
b) Exit all open Adobe applications and restart them, it worked.
This is a minor varation on the previous user's comment, where deactivation/activation worked. I believe that Adobe Support did the deactivation.
It would be nice if Adobe activation were smarter; I've only ever had one computer, never two and certainly never three.

Photoshop CC says up to date in CC Desktop but Camera Raw is still 8.3

When I look at my CC desktop app it says Photoshop is up to date but I know it's not becaus it's still using Camera Raw 8.3 and the 8.4 has been officially released for a week now.
It detected that my Lightroom was needing an update so I think the CC desktop is OK. Also, when I go into Photoshop and select "Updates" from the help menu it does not find any updates.
I already tried signing out and deleting the OMM.db file or whatever it's called and that did not work.
This is not the first problem I've had with updates either. One of the solutions says to remove and reinstall the app needing updates. How am I supposed to know if an app needs an update if it does not prompt me? The only reason I know about Camera Raw is because it's tracked by the photo community and people need that updated all the time to support new cameras.

Fc4122 can you please confirm the version of Camera RAW you are currently utilizing? You can find the version by completing the following steps:
Mac OS:
Launch Photoshop CC
Go the the Photoshop Menu and select About Plug-In
Choose Camera RAW
Windows:
Launch Photoshop CC
Go to the Help Menu and select About Plug-In
Choose Camera RAW
If you can please post the version of Camera RAW version which is indicated it would be appreciated.
If you Camera RAW 8.3 is listed then please remove and reinstall Photoshop CC. If necessary the installation logs can be reviewed to determine why the update may have failed. You can find more details on how to review your installation log files at Troubleshoot install issues with log files | CC - http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/troubleshoot-install-logs-cc.html. You would want to focus on the log file for the Camera RAW update which failed to apply. You are welcome to post any specific errors you discover to this discussion.

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