About Dummy Profit Center

Could any one of you tell me about the Dummy Profit Center.
What is it?
Why it is used in CO.
When and where it is used in CO.
Thanks & Regards

A Dummy is used when you cannot assign a proper profit centre at the time of posting.
You can then move costs from the dummy to the profit centre of your choice when you want to.
When you activate Profit Centre accounting, you HAVE to assign profit centres to postings. When you can't do that while posting a document, you use a dummy. Remember that reallocation from the dummy loses the origin of the cost/revenue. You will only be moving a number and no other information with it.
Cheers.

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Hi,
we activated New GL with Segment Balancing. The P&L accounts will get the profit Center from the cost objects. We have defined a default segment in the constant for unassigned process, and we only have zero balancing at the segment, and not the profit center. This is a business requirement.
However, I am not sure how to cover the scenario where there might be no profit center in the cost center master or the material master or any other scenarios. I have tried configuring the default profit center in FAGL3KEH. but when I tested, the document splitting is not working correctly. SAP recommends not using default profit center if document splitting is activated.
I wanted to see if dummy PCTR is an option. I have read in the SAP library, but they do not explain clearly about the dummy PCTR. It says activating dummy PCTR is optional, but do not give a good alternative option. They say we can activate balancing by PCTR, but that is not our requirement. Also, if we assign a default PCTR in the non assigned process, it will apply for the balance sheet accounts as well, which we do not want.
I am not sure what are the other options. Please suggest if there are any other options. Also SAP does not mention if we activate dummy profit center from the New GL side (not through the classic PCA menu path), does it still activate the Classic PCA tables?
Please let me know.
Thanks

Hi,
As I have already explained, both the default profit center and configuring the default profit center for non assigned processes does not work for us.
The default profit center conflicts with document splitting. SAP recommends not to use default PCTR if we do document splitting.
As far as the constant for non assigned processes goes, we have assigned a default segment here (not a default PCTR), since we are doing only segment balancing (reporting by segment), and also the business wants to be able to pick only the segment for any b/s adjustment postings.
Also, my earlier question has not been answered. Does activating the dummy profit center from GL side still activate the Classic PCA ledger 8A?
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Dummy cost center, Dummy profit center

Hi everybody,
anyone tell me, why is necessary to use dummy cost center and profit center ? what does dummy cost center, profit center mean?
I don't clear about dummy cost center and profit center
Thank in advance
Minhtb
Edited by: Tran Binh Minh on Sep 5, 2008 10:38 AM

Hi Tran,
Dummy Profit Center
In SAP, we need to create a dummy profit center when you activate profit center. It is mandatory. This dummy profit center gets values when the system could not find regular profit center in its attempt. We need to configure the system such a way, there is no posting into dummy profit center. Or otherwise, by mistake, if it gets posting, the same have to be post PCA documents to clear them. Then only we get balanced Profit Center wise statement of income or balance sheet.
Dummy Cost Center
There is no such term in SAP and there is no need to use any of the cost center as dummy cost center. Only very few companies use some cost center for making accounting adjustments and shall not be allocated to other cost objects including products, I think that it is better that we need not such term in our consulting and practice of Controlling.
Trust this answers your query!

Entries posting to dummy profit center

Hi
while doing MR21 entries is going to dummy profit center in revaluation gain or loss GL A/C instead of respective profit center of material.
For this weather we need to check / new configuration or new configuration required.
Please help.
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Dear Amita,
MR21 is only posted on company code level. To derive the profit center from the material master it would be necessary to know the plant but the plant is not available during MR21 posting. The system cannot break down the profit center information knowing only the company code. In that case this is the reason why the dummy profit center is used for price difference postings.
But you can try to use the FI substitution to change the profit center. Based on the information you can create an exit to determine the profit center from the material master.
Another option is the user exit in PCA (Exit_SAPLPCRW_001
- please read the documentation about this function module in the
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Dummy Profit Center -- Customer Line item

Hello
I have a scenerrio on dummy profit center
1. On Augst 2006 -- A customer invoice has been posted using FB70 and some how the customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to a the correct profit center.
2. On August 2006 -- Due to this business reversed original customer invoice using FB08 which again has customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to the correct profit center.
Origianl Invoice: Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 ( Customer Reconciliation Account)--- Dummy profit Center -- Dr. 235,000 USD
Reversal : Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 (Customer Reconciliation Account) -- Dummy profit center -- Cr. 235,000 USD
This is want we want and this is want we see in our FI entries and all are with the same posting dates.
Now some how when you look at KE5Z (Profit Center line items report) for dummy profit centers even today.
1. You see the original customer invoice showing dummy profit center on the customer account line item as Dr. 235,000 on GL 130024.
2. You see the reversal customer invoice showing correct profit center on the other line items and you dont see customer account line item that is GL130024 on this document.
3. Because of which dummy profit center is showing Dr.balance.
PCA report:
Origianl Invoice: Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 ( Customer Reconciliation Account)--- Dummy profit Center -- Dr. 235,000 USD
Reversal : Customer XYZ Ltd - No entry except the same document number with the other line items.
Could you please give us the thoughts except the PCA entry only as business dont have to have this entry. Business basically want to know the reason for not showing the customer line item on the reversal document which will knot out the dummy.
Will assign good points
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Automatic Posting accounts are posting to Dummy Profit center....

Hi experts....
We are configured New GL
Generally we are creating Customer Invoice (T. Code: VA02) and
Vendor Invoice (T Code. MIRO) for WBS Element only. While posting the
customer/Vendor Invoice System is not checking that CO Object (WBS
Element) in main line item (Sales/GRIR) as well as Automatic Account
assignment setting (T. code: OKB9). System is showing the Error. If
that G/L Account is not a cost element then system is posting to DUMMY
Profit Center in place profit center assign to that WBS Element
Requirement:
We need to post tax and Customer/Vendor line items in document
against WBS Element which should be picked up from Sales/GRIR Line Item
of the same document. If there is no CO Object (WBS Element/Cost
Center) in Sales/GRIR line item in document then based on Automatic
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or any configuration changes needs for it. plz give me ur valuable suggestions
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Bhagiradha

Hi,
You have to maintain Dummy profit center, it is mandatorily for configuring profit center accounting . If u have not maintain Default profit center to that cost element, it will directly flow to Dummy Profit center. Better to maintain default profit center and u cannot delete the Dummy profit center.
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Taking Dummy profit center at time of cancelation of billing

HI Gurus,
we have maintained one exchange rate differece GL a/c at the time of billing accounting document.for this Gl account we have maintained one default cost center in OKB9 in which we have assigned profit center also.
Here at the time of billing accounting doc we are getting cost center as well as profit center what we have maintained. where as in cancelation of billing document it's picking up the dummy profit center instand of profit center maintained in billing.
But we are getting correct cost center at the time of cancelation also only profit center is differing..
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In OKB9 Did you tried using value 3 in account assignment which makes profit cemter as mandatory?
In your scenario chek the values in 3KEH assignment if it is 4.7 or earlier or FAGL3KEH if it is >5.0.
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Updating the dummy Profit Center

Hi Experts
I am using the PCA with new GL , here I have created the dummy profit center also
My query is some of the business transaction are updated in the dummy profit center
What could be the reason for updating the dummy profit center suppose if I am not give any profit center
Those entries are getting updating ?
In this new Gl concept how to transfer the balance to exact Profit center ?
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Sri

Hi Venkat
You should not have activated Classical PCA if you are using New GL.. New GL PCA is a much better functionality
Anyways, the reason for DUmmy PC is only that you did not assign the PC in the CO Object like Cost Center.. PC is always derived from Cost object. So, if the CO Object has no PC, the line item gets Dummy PC
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Prevent postings to dummy profit center

dear experts
1)The inheritance option that we turn on during the activation of new G/L in ecc6.0, do you know where i can turn on that option in sap4.7.
2)what are the impacts of changing a document splitting rule in sap4.7 like in rule000000001 splitting is done for the documents for customers, vendors, tax and the client wants to change it to 000000012 which is splitting for customer,vendor, tax,money,co.code clearing. what are the areas that are to be tested for this configuration change.
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how can i know what is causing the g/l account to derive dummy profit center?
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srinivas.

Hi..
Try to assgin that GL Account in 3KEH and give original correct profit center which you want to post exactly instead of Dummy profit center.
Generallly, If you dont specify the Profit center for one GL Account in Derivation Rules, System will automatically posts to Dummy profit center only..
One more option you have is.. even if you post this payment to Dummy profit center, you can very well transfer that Dummy profit center values to Correct profit center..
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Is Dummy Profit Center required in ECC

Hi there,
Just wonder if dummy profit center is required in ECC6 despite the New GL.
However, if I do not activate profit center accounting, table GLPCT will not be updated, the stadard SAP reports for profit center can not be used. How to overcome this?
Thank you,

Hi
You need to create a dummy profit center in new GL also. If you look at the configuration steps under new GL accounting, Master data- Profit center accounting- create dummy PC.
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Picking DUMMY Profit Center in COGS line item

Dear All,
My Client is on ECC6 and document splitting is activated.
My problem is, in current month we have created on Finishd good(Material) and done PGI but dont know why system is picking dummy profit center in line item of COSG only, in line item of material profit center is proper.
1. Profit center is assigned in Material Master.
2.No User Exit is applied
3. No Validation & Sub-situation done.
4. No FAGL3KEH setting is done.
COGS Ac Dr 100 PC Dummy
To Inv of FG 100 PC 2000
Other material created in same valuation class is working properly.
Regards,
Shayam
Edited by: Shayam_210 on Aug 23, 2011 9:13 AM

Hi, to find bugs like these is always "triggy" and I am afraid that there are no easy solutions!
You could try to go in TC GGB1 - go down to the substitution in "Create sales order" and there "activate total trace" or perhaps Expert trace - set breakpoint. After you done those go in and create the sales order again in the same session.
In order to be successful here ... will you need the help of an ABAP'er.
I believe the error to be related to master data as itu2019s usually are u2026 but sometimes are there a bug in the system.
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René V. Nielsen

Picking Dummy Profit center in GL simulation

Hi,
We are using ECC 6.0 and New GL is activated.
My user has a problem booking outgoing manual payments to vendor customer accounts when there is no invoice. Profit center is obligatory while booking the payment. But even after selecting the proper profit center and simulating the GL , system shows Dummy profit center.
Requesting to help out.
Regards,
makrand

1st pass
Vendor A/c Dr
to Bank Clearing Cr.
In this bank clearing will inherit profit center from the vendor you are clearing.
Then you pass
Bank Clearing Dr
To Bank Cr. In this bank will inherit profit center from bank clearing account. Hope in second entry you are posting as well as clearing the bank clearing account.
Also check
SPRO > Financial Accounting > General Ledger Accounting > Business Transaction > Document Splitting > Activate Document Splitting
Make sure that "inheritance" is checked.

How to transfer Receivable from Dummy Profit Center to CorrectProfit Center

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While creating Billing Document ,my receivables gor assigned to dummy profit center.
It is reflecting both in my FI Document line item and PCA document line item.
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Also,if I dont transfer what is the impact of this??
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Hello,
Please create PCA assessment cycles and transfer them to the relevant profit center.
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Deletion or deactivation of Dummy Profit center in ECC 6.0

Dear Experts,
How do I delete or deactivate dummy pofit center.
Regards,
David

HI,
Dummy Profit Center is a must with Classic Profit Center Accounting, so no question of deletion/de-activation of Dummy PC.
The dummy profit center is the default profit center to which data is posted when the corresponding object has not been assigned to a profit center. If you have PCA active and any of your posting results in not being able to derive Profit Center, then system posts to this default Profit center called 'Dummy Profit center'.
Learn more on 'Dummy Profit Center' from this link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/eb/13713643c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Go through this link to understand how system determies Profit center for various business transactions
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/91/de886af65011d2b4d7006094b9b0a5/frameset.htm
Hope this helps.
Edited by: Pradeep kumar Athmakur on Feb 16, 2010 1:01 PM

Dummy Profit Center not picking correctly in PO

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PO was cretaed withAccount Assignment Y (Y-account assignment for Balance Sheet accounting) and without material.
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Hi,
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