About Generating Settlement Rule in Customer Project
Hi Experts,
I am doing the exercise of customer project T-100## in CA830.
While generating the settlement rule, the error log appeared: No profitability segment could be determined for the billing elements. So the settlement rule generation failured.
May somebody guide me how to solve this problem.
Thanks in advance!
Hi Balakrishman,
In my case, the fields of Business Area/Profit center have already been maintained. I think there must be other reasons that result in these error. Hope we can discuss further. Thank you for your help!
Regards,
Allen
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customizing path:
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In customer projects, the actual costs are settled, but accrued amounts (such as costs of sales or inventory from which revenue can be generated) are not. You carry out this settlement at billing element level.
For customer projects which you settle in full to Profitability Analysis, it is a good idea to generate the settlement rule using a strategy defined in the IMG. The standard system we deliver includes a strategy for automatically generated settlement rules for customer projects.
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u2022 Use a project profile with a settlement profile that forbids settlement. This initially prevents settlement for all the WBS elements in the project.
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ANSAR -
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I am facing issues with automatic population of settlement rule in Expense Projects. I have a scenario where I need to settlement to Cost Centres,G/L etc. Now I have maintained a settlement strategy for WBS in configuration. However in that config the account assignment option is only for PSG, responsible CC and requesting CC.So I have left it blank and just assigned the settlement profile.
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ThanksYou'll need to use Business addin for automatically generating settlement rules for expense projects with receiver as req cost center.
Check the documentation at:
SPRO=>PS=>Cost=>Automatic and Periodic Allocations=>Settlement=>Settlement Rule for Work Breakdown Structure Element=>Business Add-In: Generation of WBS Element Settlement Rule (CJB1/CJB2) -
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Hi Guys,
I am new to SAP PS.
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Please need your help.
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Roshan MalaruthuFor Internal/Investment project, you can settle all actual line items of CJIC/CJI3 to AUC then final settle capitalized items of AUC to FXA i.e. on fixed Asset using final settlement rule.
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Also refer the link below for more details:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a9/ab7770414111d182b10000e829fbfe/content.htm?frameset=/en/6b/566b34b650f777e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
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I am trying to settlement of customer project, but while doing so It says investment measure rather than processed when trying to generate settlement rules – bal of $5000. Please can any body tell where would be the actual problem.
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I have not assigned any invest profile in project. But in the table PRPS for all these
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Settlement rule for Asset Under Construction not automatically generated.
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Please suggest as to what i am missing to generate settlement rule for AUC automatically.
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Hi All,
Is it necessary to have Settlement rules for the Projects that are Subject to Result Analysis.
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Auto Run Program not updating Settlement Rules for few WBS elements
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Addition of settlement rules for OPEX WBS.
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It is becoming a problem in the Period end while doing the settlement. Currently we are updating the settlement rule manually.
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H-U0DU0204DE-EX-J0 - HHDC01
H-N0U00ULD01-P1-D1-W2 - 000090
H-U0DU0204DE-EX-U0-T1-OB - HHDC01
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H-U0DU0204DE-EX-U2-W1-ON - HHDC01
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H-U0DU0204DE-EX-I0-B1 -HHDC01
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what you need do, is to set the flag 'E_INHERITED_OK' = 'X'.
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If you have lower Release, where the BAdI WBS_SETTLEMENT_RULE_NEW is not available, please let me known your customer ID, there is a pilot note as modification for it, I can add it in the pilotlist.
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Dear All,
I am doing Customer Project. I am having 5 level in Project. My 4th level is only having billing element.
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1st Level - Settlement to PSG
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3rd Level - Settlement to PSG
4th Level - Settlement to PSG
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My requirement is to genrate this settlment rule automatically. Please, let me know how I can do it.
I cannt your stargy to determin these rule using trasction CJb2 since two different types of rules are there.
Let me know how I can do it??
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Atul R. RajmaneDear Virendra,
Thank you for your replay.
I need few more inputs from you if possible, since I and my ABAR never work on BAdI before.
Like, after creating BAdI I need to Run CJB2 again in order to generate settlement rule or rules will generated automatically say after release, of a Project or Project WBS?
Did I need make strategy to generate the settlement rule in that case??
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Automatic settlement rule for receiver 'Fixed asset' (with out IM)
Hi Experts
I am working with project settlement to a fixed asset.
I have defined a selttlement profile in which, FXA is the only valid receiver.
Please note that we do not use Investment managent and hence no automatic AUC.The predefined asset to be used for settlement.
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The below message is experienced.
"Enter a distribution rule for Asset without a validity limit"
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In this scenario, how to ensure that the settlement rule is automatically generated, any where can we refer the fixed asset?
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ramSivaHi,
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Sreekanth -
CJ20N : Settlement Rules Heritage on unique IeC WBS Element
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I've customize PS for an investment project, who have a stategy for top down heritage of the settlement rules from the project definition, and an automatic generation of an only IeC (on first WBS element) when the entire project is launched from the project definition.
All settlement rules are settled to the first WBS element (WBS project), who becomes the IeC.
Heritage is OK on all WBS elements and I can see them under "Edit -> Costs -> Settlement Rule".
When I try to see my seetlement rules on the first WBS Element (WBS project), the system turn in loop and dump after 2 minutes (time over message).
In my opinion, the error comes that the system permiss to affect the settlement rule (for exemple WBS -> I/0001) on his own object (WBS ID I/0001) . They have no error message when I save the project for the heritage.
After this operation, impossible to go back under "Edit -> Costs -> Settlement Rule" to see the settlement rules of this WBS Element.
For more information, I don't want the create the heritage to level 2 or 3 of my WBS elements structure, because I don't want to loose a level (coding mask I/XXXX.XXXX.XXX.XXXX).
Does an expert have a solution to resolv my problem ?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.Hi herieric ,
The program should not enter into an endlos loop in such case. It is rather a program error than a consulting issue. You can copy the key words from the dumps and search the notes. If there is still no suitable notes, create a customer message and ask SAP for support.
Kind regards,
Zhenbo
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