About Mac Pro RAM and one "Nehalem" Processor 2.8 vs 3.2
Hi,
Unfortunately I don't have so much money to spend but I find Apple products very high quality and in same time very expensive, specially for my country (Russia), according to statistic, it’s less then 1% of people that using Mac Pro in here, my country really poor :/
I never use Mac before, but I think that time is come and I would like to buy one on my birthday soon (22 November). I really tired of my crazy PC with Vista, it’s always bugs lags, and so on, it’s poor machine. I can buy new PC with i7, nice performances or buy Mac, but I think, Mac will be more quality and stable.
I'm web designer and programmer and using my PC with Adobe programs, normally Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, very rare with After Effect (1 day per month). Sometimes I’m playing games like Dragon Age or CS:Source, Starcraft2. But I got PS3, but unfortunately it’s connected to our main home TV, and I can’t play PS3 because all day this TV watching my family :/ lol
I’m not sure if there are any way to connect PS3 to TV and computer screen at the same time… but it’s another question.
Now about Mac I'm wondering of buying cheapest Mac Pro 2010:
# One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Nehalem”
# 3GB (3x1GB)
# 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive
# ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
# One 18x SuperDrive
But at the same time, I wondering about how long time I will be able to use this Mac, and enjoy it before it will come too old. Because I just can’t spend and buy Mac every 2-3 years.
I’m looking forward to use it for 4-5 years I think or so. I know it’s very hard question and I’m not really sure if it’s right to discuss it, but I’m saying just what I think.
And maybe because of this, it’s better to order processor with 3.2Ghz, and a bit more RAM (8GB (4x2GB))? What you think?
And what will be the different between this 2 processors and more RAM? Because it will be +800 USD or so, and it’s very expensive for me (pay addition 800 Dollars), I just want to ask you if it will costs this money. Unfortunately I can’t spend more money on Mac to buy 6-core Westmare and more RAM But I think cheapest Mac, for my tasks already very powerful and awesome, what you think?
And if you’ll advice me, not to pay addition 400 USD for +0.4Ghz, and the different is very little, then what you think about addition Ram for stock MAC?
Thank you hatter.
I'm appreciate for your help and answer, and this amazing links! They are very helpful.
I find some interesting information. And most interesting is SSD thing. But unfortunately it's very expensive for me
I got 2 ways to go, and I really confused now. I take a look what you said, about making a PC with i7. And here is what I find on our Russian market - only 1 company which offers high quality custom PC's with up to 3 years guarantee.
What they can offer:
Price: $2060
(Basic Config: DEPO Ego Z71i)
OS:
Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium RUS 32-bit
or
Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium RUS 64-bit
MotherBoard:
*ASUS P6T, Intel®X58 chipset , DDR3, ATX*
CPU:
*Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 930 (4-Cores, 2.80GHz, 4.8 GT/s, 8Mb)*
Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 950 (4-Cores, 3.06GHz, 4.8 GT/s, 8Mb) +$365
Intel® Core™ i7 Processor Extreme Edition 980X (6-Cores, 3.33GHz, 6.4 GT/s, 12Mb) +$1150
RAM:
*3Gb DDR3-1600 Corsair Dominator, Triple Channel*
6Gb DDR3-1600 Corsair , Triple Channel +$40
12Gb DDR3-1600 Corsair , Triple Channel +$260
HDD1:
*1TB SATA hard drive (7200rpm)*
2 x 1TB SATA hard drive (7200rpm) +$80
4 x 1TB SATA hard drive (7200rpm) +$230
2 x 2TB SATA hard drive (7200rpm) +$355
4 x 2TB SATA hard drive (7200rpm) +$790
HDD2:
WD VelociRaptor 150GB, 10000rpm, 16Mb cache, SATA-II +$175
2.5" 64GB SSD SATA II +$205
WD VelociRaptor 300GB, 10000rpm, 16Mb cache, SATA-II +$285
2.5" 128GB SSD SATA II +$405
RAID:
RAID0 (required minimum 2 HDD) +$10
RAID1 (required minimum 2 HDD) +$10
Optical Drive 5.25":
*DVD±RW/CD-RW/DVD 16x4x/5xDL/16x4x/16x/48x/24x/48x*
BD-ROM&DVD RAM&DVD±R/RW, 5x/5x/12(R9 6)x/6x/12(R9 4)x/6x/12x/24x/24x/32x +$130
SuperMulti Blu-Ray ReWriter +$235
Card Reader 3.5":
*Card Reader/Writer 50 in 1 (CF/MD/SM/MS/SD/MMC)*
Video:
*ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 (1024МБ, PCI-E TV-out DVI+HDMI)*
1536MB NVIDIA GeForce 480GTX PCI-E DVI +$110
2x ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 (1024МБ, PCI-E TV-out DVI+HDMI) +$230
2x ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 (1024МБ, PCI-E TV-out DVI+HDMI) +$490
Sound:
*Realtek 7.1 (integrated)*
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi™ Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series +$400
Power:
*800W (12sm)*
1000W (14sm) +$50
1200W (14sm) +$55
WiFi:
*WLAN 802.11bg*
Mouse + KeyBoard: (lol)
Without mouse and keyboard -$75
Cordless Desktop® Wave Pro™ +$75
Maitance:
*1 Year*
2 Years +$10
3 Years +$20
Ok, that’s it.
DEPO - It’s our Russian company so I can’t give you link on English web page, but if you are interesting to view it, maybe with Google translate:
http://www.depo.ru/H/MDL658/1000004953/zconfigurator.aspx
And I’m not really sure, if they offer high quality components, and I can’t check it.
I just don’t want to repeat same experience like with my previous computer – I bought top computer for very high price with top components, but everything was bugging, it’s terrible, I’m working with this computer 3 years now (it’s cored 2 duo with radeon x1900 and vista :S video card - without supporting DX10-11, 2 Hdd 500Gb RAID 0, - maximum lags – I cant’ even make a diagnostics… crazy). And I’m so sad about this computer, and I don’t want to repeat same experience. That’s why I wonder about Mac Pro or any other quolity PC, but price is too high, or if I buy just normal Mac Pro:
• One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Nehalem”
• 3GB (3x1GB)
• 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive
• ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
• One 18x SuperDrive
• Apple Magic Mouse
• Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad (English) & User's Guide
For 2499 USD, I still need to add more RAM, and It will costs 2874 USD with 8 Gb, but without changing Processor and/or HDD for SSD to speed up computer like **** and enjoy it every minute. I maximum can spend 3000-3200 USD for new computer. And all I want, to enjoy it’s stability and speed. To load photoshop in less then 5 seconds, working with AE a bit, 3dmax a bit, play a bit. Maybe I want to much :/
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<Edited by Host>hello I am in Afghanistan i searched that in realtek but that told me you coulde not use this sit
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