Abstract interfaces between diff swcvs

Hi Guys,
I am designing BPM under my own SWCV. I need to use two abstract interfaces which were defined in entirely different SWCV.
My scenario is like Proxy-BPM-SOAP. The scenario is synchronus but the Proxy side i have two seperate interfcaes as outbound (Asynch) and inbound (Asynch) instead of a single synchronus interface.
I have created 2 abstract interfaces for these 2 interfaces and i need to use them under my own SWCV where i am designing the BPM process
any help would be appreciated
Thanks,
srini

Hi,
From SAP Help.
An integration process can only reference interfaces from its own software component version.
Check this link under the topic abstract interface.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/78/62373f58502e48e10000000a114084/content.htm
Regards,
Sudheer.

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I am trying to create an integration process of a sender and receiver abstract interfaces of different SWCVs. If I create the integration process in one of the SWCV, I am not able to select the other interface in the receive step.Is it a necessary criteria to have the both sender and receiver abstract interfaces to be in the same SWCV? Can they not be in different SWCV?
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Hi Antonio,
CLEAR SLD CACHE is not enough. After your SWCV update in SLD, you need to import again your SWVC inside IR.
All your objects will be NOT deleted. Thus don't worry about your Data Type, Mappings, BPM, etc...
I have already done such an import (after adding a usage-depency), I have never lose an object.
If you are some doubt, you can Export all your namespaces in a file (cf. Tools > Export). Thus you will be able to Import all your namespaces if something will be wrong (but it will be not the case!). Ask to your admin to get this file in order to NOT send it to your production system...
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Mickael
Message was edited by: Mickael Huchet

Abstract Interfaces from diff SWCVs

Hi Guys,
I am doing PROXY-BPM-SOAP synchronus scenario.
The request is coming from the outbound asynch interface which would be talking to the webservice request and the reponse from the webservice should be sent back to inbound asynch interface.
The outbound asynch interf used during the request processing and the inbound asynch interface used during the reponse are under sap delivered XI content SWCV. The webservice wsdl which has both req and response are under my own SWCV
How to acess the abstract interfcaes under sap delivered SWCV under my own swcv where i am designing the IP ?
I tried for dependencies but i could not find the swcv in the sld which came with the xi content
any help would be appreciated
Thanks,
srini

Hi Aamir,
we cant change proxies as they are linked to other interfaces. we decided to go with the BPM. can you please explain me how to acheive this by using BPM ?
The main problem what i am seeing is acccessing the abstract interfcaes for these 2 seperate asynchro interfaces which are entirely in the diff SWCV
I thought of creating dependencies but i could not find this in sld as it came as xi content.
any help would be really apprecited
Thanks,
srini

Diff between ABSTRACT & INTERFACE.

can I know the exact difference between abstract and interface
and also can I know where exactly what can be used. if possible briefly with programs.

An abstract class is meant to be used only when you have a class of a type that will never have an instance, but from which classes are actual types of. For example, class Fruit would demonstrait the qualities required for an abstract class. You should never, in the real world, have an instance of Fruit that isn't actually some kind of Fruit; there's no such thing as the instance of an abstract Fruit. However, there are common traits between apples, oranges, bannanas, etc. Therefor it would make sense to have an abstract class, Fruit, from which the classes Apple, Bannana, Orange, Pear, Peach, etc.. extend. This way you could treat all of these objects as Fruits by upcasting, but you wouldn't have to worry about a generic fruit being created.
An interface is different, it's not a "is a" relationship, but rather an interface between one object and another (Apropriately named isn't it?). It's meant to be used only as a communication channel between objects. For instance, an eyeball would be a good example of an object that has a communication interface. An eyeball watches for information being presented to it and turns it into Images for the Brain, for this purpose there could exist a EyeListener interface:
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Now, the eyeball will just hang out and produce images for the Brain, or whatever other information processing units that will exist in the future that implement the EyeListener interface (Neural CPUs running Java Bytecode). I think it's fairly obvious how a Brain lacks any kind of relationship to the Type Eye, but has a strong relationship with the two instances of Eye it works with.
Another way to solve the problem of providing a communication interface between these two things would be to call the Brain a type of "Eye", and simply extend Eye and override the informationReceived method to get the Image information it produces. And in C++, strangely enough, this kind of use of Object Orientation is fairly common.
And I think everybody can see that there is something really extremely wrong with this.
And you should see by now that relationships that require interfaces are MUCH more common that relationships that would involve an abstract class. Thinking about the relationships this way makes the Class Eye more flexable, and allows it to hide a great deal of it's implementation behind the interface.
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Hello,
What makes the difference between the Normal Interfaces and Abstract Interfaces. Is there any technical differences between these two interfaces.
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Hi,
You use a message interface to describe a platform-independent or programming-language-independent interface, which you want to use to exchange messages between application components using SAP Exchange Infrastructure.
When you create a message interface you define the communication parameters by using the attributes Mode and Category as Sync/Async, Inbound/Outbound or Abstract.
Message interfaces of this category can perform the role of an inbound or outbound interface within integration processes, depending on whether it is used to send or receive a message. For this reason, no direction is specified during definition. In integration processes, you can use the same abstract interface to receive and send a message. Abstract message interfaces generally receive the message from an outbound interface of a sender system and send it to an inbound interface of a receiver system, thus performing a complementary role.
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IDOC Abstract Interface

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If you want to use the Idocs in the BPM , then abstract interfaces are required.
 During design I did an interface mapping between the IDOC and the Abstract Interface of the IP
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and if i have two sender files.. and one reciver file.. then how many message mappings and how many inteface mappings i need to create... in the BPM scenario
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i,
Seems you are having some problem.
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