AC 5.3  Logical systems and multiple Physical systems

HI all:
We have set up a Logical System, and then have hooked up 2 Physical systems to it.  Based on the documentation from SAP, the rule set (and the way we set it up) is at the Logical system level. 
Physical system #1 is reporting the correct results, however, Physical system #2 results are not complete.  My understanding is that both Physical systems should be drawing from the rule set based in the Logical system.
Results:  Physical system #1 - correctly identifies 10 risks
              Physical system #2 - incorrectly only identifies 5 of the expected 10 risks.
Role assignment to user is exactly same, authorizations are exactly the same.  The User/Role/Profile Full Sync has been repeated as part of troubleshooting.
Has anyone experienced this?  I'm looking for ideas/options on where to investigate why the results are different.
Thanks
Margaret

HI:
Thanks for answering!!  I'm having trouble understanding the answers, sorry.
When you have a logical system...you upload the rules once to that system, and generate them.  Then when you set up a physical system and hook it up to the logical system...the 1st, 2nd or 3rd physical system....they all use the same ruleset.  The whole concept (as I understand) is that the use of Logical and Physical systems...and putting the rule set on the Logical system so you don't have to worry about one rule set taking precedence over another, is an advantage, if this is possible (ie: we don't have multiple rule sets).
Where should I be checking that the risks are defined properly?  The rule set is the delivered one from SAP.  The functions and risks match what we had (plus more) in the CC 4.0 system.
The first physical system we set up (example: Development) works fine, and all regular SoD risks are coming up as expected.  When we added another system (example: Test)...the results of SoD analysis were incomplete. 
Does that help clarify?  Perhaps I'm just missing something?
Margaret
Edited by: Margaret Sokolov on Apr 28, 2009 4:34 PM

Similar Messages

  • Difference Between Logical Screen and Active/Physical Screen

    Hi All,
    Could someone tell me what is the Diffrence Between Logical Screen and Active/Physical Screen and what is the reason for having two screens instead of one.
    Thanks in Advance,
    Joseph Reddy.

    Hi Marilyn,
    Thanks You. I have found the answer to this.
    All,
    If you go to the SPRO>Logistics Execution>Mobile Data Entry-->Define Screen Management. Here you have two screens one is Logical Screen and another actual Screen and a program associated to this.
    Here the Logical Screens are used within the program and Actual screens are the screens which are visible to the User. The Link between Logical and actual screen is present in the table T3130C. Program recognises logical screens.
    Now suppose say certain functionality/create new transaction code for RF Device is not there in SAP and you want to Include/Create your own code in any of the User-Exits. Then you have to rename the actual screen to 9***. So that the system recognises the change in the screen and related User-Exit is executed.
    Hope this is Clear.
    Thanks & Regards,
    Joseph Reddy.

  • Local logical standby and remote physical standby

    Dear All,
    My database version is 10.2.0.1.0(production) and Operating System Linux x86-64 OS Version Red Hat Enterprise 4
    Below is my configuration details:
    Rprimary Database:Two Nodes RAC
    StandBy Database LOCAL:Standalone database
    Standby Database Remote:Two Node RAC
    So,my question is, i want my local physical DR to convert into logical standby and
    Remote DR will operate as physical standby as it IS.
    sql>EXECUTE DBMS_LOGSTDBY.BUILD
    After executing the above statement in my production primary database will there be any performance HIT.
    And another important is that my above statement shouldn't affect my remote physical DR database.
    Just the local DR should get converted into logical standby database
    Thanks and Regards
    Monoj Das

    monoj wrote:
    Dear All,
    My database version is 10.2.0.1.0(production) and Operating System Linux x86-64 OS Version Red Hat Enterprise 4
    Below is my configuration details:
    Rprimary Database:Two Nodes RAC
    StandBy Database LOCAL:Standalone database
    Standby Database Remote:Two Node RAC
    So,my question is, i want my local physical DR to convert into logical standby and
    Remote DR will operate as physical standby as it IS.
    sql>EXECUTE DBMS_LOGSTDBY.BUILD
    After executing the above statement in my production primary database will there be any performance HIT.
    And another important is that my above statement shouldn't affect my remote physical DR database.
    Just the local DR should get converted into logical standby database
    Thanks and Regards
    Monoj DasIn any Data Guard environment, you can have either physical or logical or even mixed[physical + logical]
    There will be no performance issue if you run the package for logical standby DBMS_LOGSTDBY.BUILD , This package provides you to manage even logical standby database.

  • Why logical column in terms of other logical columns and not physical sourc

    Hello
    Can someone shed some light that in what scenario ..defining a logical column in terms of other logical column is beneficial compared to defining logical column in terms of physical sources?
    I found something on google that said defining in terms of logical columns is like one time thing. I dont understand, even if you define in terms of physical source that' too one time.
    In both the case we build an expression specifying which logical or physical columns.
    Thank you

    well logical columns from physical source, if in logical fact table you can set aggr rules. Logical columns based on other logical columns you can not. Logical columns based on other logical columns will inherit the aggr rules. So for instance, if you create col1 and col2. Both based off physical and both having sum aggr rule. If you create logical column col3 based off these two as such "col1"/"col2" it will produce the following sum(col1)/cum(col2). Now if you really wanted sum(col1/col2) then you should have made col3 based off physical as col1/col2 with aggr rule of sum.
    Also of some note, all logical columns based off physical will be performed in the inner most query. So for my example above to get col3 where it is logical col1/logical col2 or sum(col1)/sum(col2) the physical query will be:
    select D1.c1/D1.c2
    from (
    select sum(col1) as c1,
    sum(col2) as c2
    from tableA
    ) D1
    So my short summary of this, is what or how do you want your sql to be created. Based on this can you lead you to your answer of whether to use logical col based on physical or other logical columns. And unltimately, check the sql generated from your work to ensure the sql queries generated are what you want and expect.
    I hope this helps!

  • Major release with two logical stbys and two physical stbys

    I have a 300G 11g database in production with two physical standby and 2 logical standby databases. We are planning for a major release which include heavy data load and ddls. What would be the best way to salvage my standbys while running the release scripts.
    I am afraid that we have 70/30 chance of successfully releasing the release, which means that I have 30% possibility to "restart" the release process from the point 0. Someone in my shop suggested using flashback, but I don't know if my server have that much of space to assign to the flashback recovery area. The upgrade/release takes approximately two days to run.
    I was thinking of stopping the log transfer to all the standby database locations while running the load and once I am done, then transfer all the logs and re-enable the standby to "catch up", but would it work for logical standby, too?
    I could not just disable all the standbys and re-create them once the release is completed because two of the standby databases are located at off-site with the limited network speed, and re-creating standby through network takes too long for us to do so.
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    Thanks,

    I have a 300G 11g database in production with two physical standby and 2 logical standby databases. We are planning for a major release which include heavy data load and ddls. What would be the best way to salvage my standbys while running the release scripts. What would be the approximate size of data size it is going to load?
    If its very huge then see the disadvantages:
    1) Log of redo
    2) in equal size of Archive logs
    3) FRA/arch space issues at OS Level
    4) Network traffic to 4 sites(2 physical + 2 logical)
    5) Lot of archives on Standby databases too
    6) How fast standby can fetch & apply?
    I am afraid that we have 70/30 chance of successfully releasing the release, which means that I have 30% possibility to "restart" the release process from the point 0. Someone in my shop suggested using flashback, but I don't know if my server have that much of space to assign to the flashback recovery area. The upgrade/release takes approximately two days to run.Its production, When you flashback database it will open database in resetlogs then your complete DR setup is in trouble.
    is it flashback or restorepoint with flashback?
    Restore Points in Oracle10g Release2 [ID 330535.1] --> applicable for 11g too.
    I was thinking of stopping the log transfer to all the standby database locations while running the load and once I am done, then transfer all the logs and re-enable the standby to "catch up", but would it work for logical standby, too?That is the good plan. Mseberg already given Documents which you can refer for logical standby.
    BTW what is your protection mode?
    You can refer below links for physical standby
    http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B28359_01/server.111/b28294/rman.htm#CIHIAADC
    http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Oracle/DBA_tips/Data_Guard/DG_53.shtml#Physical%20Standby%20Database%20Lags%20Far%20Behind%20the%20Primary%20Database
    I could not just disable all the standbys and re-create them once the release is completed because two of the standby databases are located at off-site with the limited network speed, and re-creating standby through network takes too long for us to do so.Re-creating standby is bad thinking, when you have other options.
    Think how much time you can spend on performing rollforward &
    how much time to re-create standbys?
    Hope you have answer for this.

  • Loading multiple physical records into a logical record

    Hello,
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this thread.
    I have to import data from a fixed length positioned text file into a oracle table using sql loader.
    My sample input file (which has 3 columns) looks like:
    Col1 Col2 Col3
    1 A abcdefgh
    1 A ijklmnop
    1 A pqrstuv
    1 B abcdefgh
    1 B ijklmn
    2 A abcdefgh
    3 C hello
    3 C world
    The above text file should be loaded into the table as:
    Col1 Col2 Col3
    1 A abcdefghijklmnpqrstuv
    1 B abcdefghijklmn
    2 A abcdefgh
    3 C helloworld
    My question: Is there a way tht i can use the logic of loading multiple physical records into a logical record in my oracle tables. Please suggest.
    Thanks in advance.

    Hi,
    user1049091 wrote:
    Kulash,
    Thanks for your reply.
    The order of the concatenated strings is important as the whole text is split into several physical records in the flat file and has to be combined into 1 record in Oracle table.
    My scenario is we get these fixed length input files from mainframes on a daily basis and this data needs to be loaded into a oracle table for reporting purpose. It needs to be automated.
    Am still confused whether to use external table or a staging table using sql loader. Please advise with more clarity as am a beginner in sql loader. Thanks.I still think an external table would be better.
    You can create the external table like this:
    CREATE TABLE     fubar_external
    (      col1     NUMBER (2)
    ,      col2     VARCHAR2 (2)
    ,      col3     VARCHAR2 (50)
    ORGANIZATION  EXTERNAL
    (       TYPE             ORACLE_LOADER
         DEFAULT DIRECTORY  XYZ_DIR
         ACCESS PARAMETERS  (
                                 RECORDS DELIMITED BY     NEWLINE
                          FIELDS  (   col1        POSITION (1:2)
                                      ,   col2        POSITION (3:4)
                               ,   col3        POSITION (5:54)
         LOCATION        ('fubar.txt')
    );where XYZ_DIR is the Oracle Directory on the database server's file system, and fubar.txt is the name of the file on that directory. Every day, when you get new data, just overwrite fubar.txt. Whenever you query the table, Oracle will read the file that's currently on that directory. You don't have to drop and re-create the table every day.
    Note that the way you specify the columns is similar to how you do it in SQL*Loader, but the SEQUENCE generator doesn't work in external files; use ROWNUM instead.
    Do you need to populate a table with the concatenated col3's, or do you just need to display them in a query?
    Either way, you can reference the external table the same way you would reference a regular, internal table.

  • Can one physical system have multiple logical systems? if yes  why?

    can one physical system have multiple logical systems? if yes  why?
    Regards
    sriman

    Logical system is an ALIAS name for a physical LOCATION. so we may have more than 1 logical system name for a physical location.
    eventhough its allowed,but normally we dont do that.
    you can do this in FILE transaction.
    Regards
    srikanth

  • Logical system and rfc destination

    hello all,
    what is the difference between logical system and RFC destination?
    thanks for ur help in advance.
    regards,
    vikas

    Hi,
    In any ALE scenario u need one sender and one receiver system.
    Logical systems are just logical representation of these systems but in case of RFC destination u specify technical parameters for those systems like IP address and username and password to connect to that system.
    Thus when u create port i.e.we21 u specify actual RFC destination for the system to which u want to connect and when u create partner profile for that logical system u specify this port so when u want to send data to this logical system i.e receiver system port will be used which in turn has RFC destination which will be used to connect to that system.
    In simple terms logical systems are logical representation of any system and RFC destinations are physical/techinical systems.
    Regards

  • Multiple Logical Systems in Partner Profile for one instance

    Can we create multiple Logical Systems in Partner Profile (WE20) for one instance or one System?  If it is possible, can we create Logical System with respect to Plant/Country?

    I am not quite sure if I understood your problem completley. But let's see...
    Usually you use on on MSCS Cluster Group per SAP instance. So you have your already existing NW 7.0 ABAP stack in a separated Cluster Group, and you create a new Cluster Group for your new Java system.
    You can find more information about it in this guide here on SDN:
    Link: [High Availability;
    More information about High Availability Setups for SAP System can be found here on SDN:
    Link: [High Availability]
    If you want to use the same database for your clustered ABAP stack and your new Java stack you can do a MCOD installation.
    Please see Link: [SAP Note 388866 - Multiple Components on One Database - Installation|https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/388866]
    Hope this helps.
    Best regards,
    Mathias

  • RFC Destination and Logical System

    Hi Friends,
    Can anybody tell me how the RFC Destination and Logical System are related to each other?

    Hi,
    In any ALE scenario u need one sender and one receiver system.
    Logical systems are just logical representation of these systems but in case of RFC destination u specify technical parameters for those systems like IP address and username and password to connect to that system.
    Thus when u create port i.e.we21 u specify actual RFC destination for the system to which u want to connect and when u create partner profile for that logical system u specify this port so when u want  to send data to this logical system i.e receiver system port will be used which in turn has RFC destination which will be used to connect to that system.
    In simple terms logical systems are logical representation of any system and RFC destinations are physical/techinical systems.
    Thanks.

  • Diffebetween Business system and Logical system...

    what is the difference between Business system and Logical system...

    Hi
    Business system is a logical layer needed for configuration in integration directory. On the other site technical system is physical representation of your technical landscape. In case of SAP technical systems you can have more than one business system relation. In that situation there is relation one client to one business system.
    If your technical system changes, then you definitely need to point this new technical system to the existing Business system which has been used to do all the Configurations in the Integration Builder.
    Re: business system
    Re: business system
    Thanks

  • How to Configure logical path and how to retrieve physical path for an IDOC

    Hi ,
    I want to configure logical path for an IDOC,
    and then I need to retrieve Physical path from this logical path
    using a FM (eg. FILE_GET_NAME).
    How to configure the logical path for an idoc ?
    Regards ,
    Harshit Rungta

    Using Logical Files in ABAP Programs
    To create a physical file name from a logical file name in your ABAP programs, use the function module FILE_GET_NAME. To insert the function module call in your program, choose Edit ® Insert statement from the ABAP Editor screen. A dialog box appears. Select Call Function and enter FILE_GET_NAME. The parameters of this function module are listed below.
    Import parameters
    Parameters
    Function
    CLIENT
    The maintenance tables for the logical files and paths are client-dependent. Therefore, the desired client can be imported. The current client is stored in the system field SY-MANDT.
    LOGICAL_FILENAME
    Enter the logical file name in upper case letters that you want to convert.
    OPERATING_SYSTEM
    You can import any operating system that is contained in the list in Transaction SF04 (see Assigning Operating Systems to Syntax Groups). The physical file name will be created according to the syntax group to which the operating system is linked. The default parameter is the value of the system field
    SY-OPSYS.
    PARAMETER_1
    PARAMETER_2
    If you specify these import parameters, the reserved words  in the physical path names will be replaced by the imported values.
    USE_PRESENTATION
    _SERVER
    With this flag you can decide whether to import the operating system of the presentation server instead of the operating system imported by the parameter OPERATING_SYSTEM.
    WITH_FILE_EXTENSION
    If you set this flag unequal to SPACE, the file format defined for the logical file name is appended to the physical file name.
    Export Parameters
    Parameters
    Function
    EMERGENCY_FLAG
    If this parameter is unequal to SPACE, no physical name is defined in the logical path. An emergency physical name was created from table FILENAME and profile parameter DIR_GLOBAL.
    FILE_FORMAT
    This parameter is the file format defined for the logical file name. You can use this parameter, for example, to decide in which mode the file should be opened.
    FILE_NAME
    This parameter is the physical file name that you can use with the ABAP statements for working with files.
    Exception Parameters
    Parameters
    Function
    FILE_NOT_FOUND
    This exception is raised if the logical file is not defined.
    OTHERS
    This exception is raised if other errors occur.
    Suppose the logical file MYTEMP and the logical path TMP_SUB are defined as in the preceding topics and we have the following program:
    DATA: FLAG,
          FORMAT(3),
          FNAME(60).
    WRITE SY-OPSYS.
    CALL FUNCTION 'FILE_GET_NAME'
         EXPORTING
              LOGICAL_FILENAME        = 'MYTEMP'
              OPERATING_SYSTEM        = SY-OPSYS
              PARAMETER_1             = '01'
         IMPORTING
              EMERGENCY_FLAG          = FLAG
              FILE_FORMAT             = FORMAT
              FILE_NAME               = FNAME
         EXCEPTIONS
              FILE_NOT_FOUND          = 1
              OTHERS                  = 2.
    IF SY-SUBRC = 0.
      WRITE: /  'Flag      :', FLAG,
             / 'Format    :', FORMAT,
             / 'Phys. Name:', FNAME.
    ENDIF.
    The output appears as follows:
    HP-UX
    FLAG :
    FORMAT : BIN
    Phys. Name: /tmp/TEST01
    In this example, the R/3 System is running under the operating system HP-UX, which is member of the syntax group UNIX. The logical file name MYTEMP with the logical path TMP_SUB is converted into a physical file name /tmp/TEST01 as defined for the syntax group UNIX. The field FNAME can be used in the further flow of the program to work with file TEST01 in directory /tmp.
    Suppose we have a logical file name EMPTY with the physical file name TEST, connected to a logical path that has no specification of a physical path. If you replace the EXPORTING parameter 'MYTEMP' with 'EMPTY' in the above example, the output appears as follows:
    HP-UX
    FLAG : X
    FORMAT :
    Phys. Name: /usr/sap/S11/SYS/global/TEST
    The system created an emergency file name, whose path depends on the installation of the current R/3 System.

  • Assign Logical System both in GTS and R3

    Hello all,
    We are using Two different system for R3 and GTS , and defined logical system both systems ( for R3 QR1CLNT100 and for GTS QG1CLNT100 , now do I need to assign logical system both system for clients in R3 and GTS ( I mean at the time of assignment both clients QR1CLNT100 & QG1CLNT100 i have to assign in both systems  or only one.   For Feeder system only I need to assign GTS system logical system as QG1CLNT100 vice versa ( for GTS system need to only Feeder system logical client QR1CLNT100)
    Thanks in advance for valuable inputs.
    Thanks & Regards
    Tarun

    There are following steps  for doing connection between R/3 and GTS
    1. Define Logical System
      Here you have to define both R/3 logical system as well as  
      GTS logical system.
    2. Assign Logical System.
    Here actually when u get in you will see the physical system
    detail on which you are logged in , suppose you are on R/3 you will find detail of R/3 system with different clients. Some clinet willcome as default like 00 which is waldrof client the SAP client and other are are those which are created at the time of installation.
    Here you have to assign the logical system of R/3 to the physical system client combination on which you looged in.
    you will find a field  of logical system on the top once you get in detail of the client system combination.
    Now here we have assigned the Logical system of R/3 this is required as when GTS will communicate wiht R/3 it willtry to look for  R/3 logical system as for RFC connection we always define logical system to which the system will talk.
    this configuration we do under Maintain RFC connection for RFC call Tcode SM59
    3.  Maintain RFC connection for RFC call Tcode SM59.
       Here we define the Target host, and logon detail like 
       language , client, user passwaord.
       We need to define the detail for GTS for RFC connection and   so we need here the logical system of GTS.
    4. Maintain RF destination for method call
      Here again you will require GTS logical system .
    5. Maintain ALE distribution here you will require both R/3 and GTS logical system.
    Hope it helps
    Kind Regards,
    Sameer

  • SMSY//Logical component definition - multiple roles for one system?

    Dear all,
    as our client has a divided system landscape (three-tier operational line as well as two-tier development line) some systems have more than one role to fill. The development system on development line is source system for all developments, as well as post-processing system for retrofit purpose from operational line. The maintenance system on operational line is target system for developments from development line, as well as source system for maintenance activities on operational line.
    --> What are the consequences of assigning multiple roles to one system?
    --> Is there anonther option than assigning multiple roles?
    Best regards
    Nick

    We have Event Manger 7.0 installed into a stand-alone SCM 7.0 system. When trying to set this up in SMSY, the only options given for setting up the Logical System is to associate with with EHP3 or EHP4 for in ECC 6.0.
    Obviously we have not installed EM into ECC. So where are the other appropriate entries in SMSY for recognizing that EM is installed in SCM?
    1) This system must be maintained as SCM 7.0 in SMSY and not as SAP ERP 6.0 or EHPX for SAP ERP 6.0, this is the reason as you can see this system SCM 7.0 can be assigned just to SAP ERP 6.0 or EHPX for SAP ERP 6.0.
    2) There's no Main Instance available to be selected when you have a SAP SCM 7.0. You must select one or more of the following main instances below.
    BI Content
    SCM Server
    cFolders on SCM Server
    GEOCODING
    Portal Content
    SAP LiveCache
    SAP NW - Adobe Docu. Service
    SCM Optimizer
    SCM WCL
    XI Content
    These are the main instances available to SCM 7.0

  • How to create a logical and a physical path?

    Hi ,
    I want to know how is  a logical path created ?
    Also , how can a physical path be created from a provided logicall path?
    Regards,
    Harshit Rungta

    Hi,
    Use FM u2018FILE_GET_NAMEu2019 to assign the physical file name using a logical file name.
    Remember you need to create u2018logical file nameu2019 using transaction u2013 FILE.
    R/3 applications run on various platforms with various file systems. Hence we use platform-independent logical file names in our application programs.
    Function module u2018FILE_GET_NAMEu2019 converts a logical file name to the corresponding physical file name and path for the hardware platform concerned.
    For this conversion to work for different platforms, the definition of a logical file name must include a logical file path, which in turn is converted to different physical file paths, depending on the particular platform. The platform-specific file name returned by the function module is composed of the physical file path for the current platform and the physical file name associated with the logical file name. Placeholders in physical file and path names are substituted at runtime by the corresponding current values.
    Example
    logical file name:     MONTHLY_SALES_FILE
    physical file name:     VALUES<PARAM_1>
    logical path:     SALES_DATA_PATH
    physical path (UNIX):     /usr/<SYSID>/<FILENAME>
    physical path (Windows):     C:\SALES\<FILENAME>.
    Kind Regards,
    Nikhil J.

Maybe you are looking for

  • Como controlar velocidad con un PID con USB 6008 ?????

    Buenas tardes. Acabo de adquirir mi placa USB 6008 y estoy comenzando a trabajar para poder controlar la velocidad de un motor trifásico asincrónico estandar. Para esto contruí con un microcontrolador y una etapa de potencia la parte del variador. Y

  • Why does my ipod touch keep timing out?

    I've updated to the 4.2.1 version on my ipod touch.  I'm trying to download an app.  It doesn't allow me to get past the payment info before timing out.  help!

  • SOund for sent or received new mail

    Many times the sound of the mail disappears and cannot hear if at max volume, is that an error or how to rectify it ?

  • Why do I get the spinning ball forever on travel websites?

    I use cable internet and had a field tech come out to check the modem/router. He found nothing wrong. I'm wondering if the problem is with my Mac. It seems like with travel sites in particular such as Megabus, or vacation websites, I have to wait a f

  • IDOC DEBMAS05

    Hello, we are trying to send Customer master data from R/3 to an external system. We were supposed to use DEBMAS05 for this, but realized that the customer data is not in table KNA1, but in BUT000 (the customer is originally created in CRM, and then