AC3 decoding on Audigy SE ca

Hi!
I just recently bought a Soundblaster Audigy SE card + a 'Digital I/O module' in order to get SPDIF input capability, I thought.
My HTPC-setup is very "special":
The HTPC uses the TVEdia (www.8dim.com)software with a RealMagic XCard which outputs the video stream as svideo to my CRT television, and all audio may be output by the TVEdia software as an AC3 stream using the external SPDIF connector on the XCard card
(previously I have been using the alternate stereo only output on the XCard card feeding my TV directly).
My intention was to use the coaxial AC3/ SPDIF output from the XCard card and input it into the newly installed Audigy SE card using the 'Digital I/O module', have the AC3 stream decoded by the Audigy SE card, or decoded in software, and then output as 5. sound using the 3 mini-jack output connectors on the Audigy SE card to my Logitech X-540 speakers.
This was meant to be an "interim"-solution before buying a proper receiever with AC3/DTS decoding capabilities.
However, I do not seem to be able to setup the Audigy SE card to perform AC3 decoding, neither in hardware nor does there seem to be any Creative-software based solution for achieving this on the Audigy SE card?
Is this correctly observed?

The decoding is done in software on all the cards. Allegedly the X-Fi has some hardware assist, but nobody's actually done any tests to prove that there's actually a reduction in CPU utilisation.
The reason the Audigy 2 ZS also supports DTS is because Creative has licensed DTS decoding on their cards and for every Audigy 2 ZS/X-Fi sold they pay DTS as well as Dolby a per unit fee. The reason the older cards don't support DTS is because they would have to pay an additional fee for every card already sold, which they don't really want to do.

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Deem my surprise then when I chose to try out the 80 day trial of Windows XP Pro x64 and the AC3 decoding worked flawlessly in all players.
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"problem now is, repack decodes all streams as dolby even if its mp3, and very funny, it only works with normal media player, media player classic has no audio anymore".
repack ? I think you mean reclock. mmmh, your problem sounds like a really bad installation, which creates a complete mess in the filter graphs.
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"well, clearly decoding on the PC is far more complex then running it through a external decoder."
Decoding with the PC is complete piece of cake, that's building a good PC with a good system that is not something everything can do with just instinct
"can i control audio buffer in ffd? (id rather be in control then repack, since repack crashes after every movie...)", I don't know, I decided years ago to avoid all-in-one solutions, and on top of all, FFDShow.
" the audigy doesnt do all the work, which is very astonishing and very disapointing..."
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Audigy 2 ZS decoding DTS performa

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if i watch the complete movie there's no problem at all, it's really amazing the sound that produces audigy decoding AC3 over powerdvd decoding.
The problem i have is with dts decoding, for the first two minutes it works normal(Woow it's even better than AC3, the playback is smooth and the sound Louder) , but then, it pauses, i have to stop and then play to continue, the strange thing is that this happen in different times such us: two minutes, 5 seconds or even fi've minutes.
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2) What else do i have to setup to be able to see a complete movie with audigy DTS decoding without pauses.

I hate pumbing threads like this , but I really need an answer , DTS stutters but AC3 is perfect , I am also using reclock?in case somebody suggests it .

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DirectX latestI have an Audigy SE with Logitech speakers (X-530) connected (analog).
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3. Has anyone ever been able to use an Audigy card to play 5. sound (analog out) correctly with or without CMSS enabled?
4. If you can say yes on question three what decoder, player and settings did you use?I have searched the forum but have not been able to find straight anwers to these questions.
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Answer to question , 2 and 3?is yes.
I use WMP and with the XVID . and AC3filter .0a RC5 (beta)?codec.
Under General (in ac3 filter) I have SPDIF (disabled) ticked that will output it to creatives decoder
And under?system tab in AC3 filter?i have Use AC3 Filter for AC3 only ticked and the option next to it SPDIF passthrough i have AC3 option?ticked as well. (The output speaker settings in general?are not needed as since the card will do all the work).
In Creatives Control Panel under decoder I have Use Built in Decoder to use the AC3 decoding on The Card which i find is better.
Just Looked at the Audigy SE and it seems like it does not have an AC3 decoder. So the following settings will be of no use to you.
http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=2&s=2?(AC3filter .0a RC5) download this and try it with WMP as well.
Do the following as well
In WMP goto Tools > Options > DVD > Advance button that would bring up AC3 filter options starting with General.
Under Output select 3/2+SW 5. Channel
Then Goto?system tab?tick the AC3 box under the options Use AC3 filter for.
Then play the movie and see if it plays or not.
Message Edited by Stargazer on 02-24-200608:48 PM

Decoder DDTS-100 + digital out(audigy 2)via coaxial

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