Accelerating AVCHD in CS4

I have Premiere CS4 and do not want to upgrade at this point in time. With CS4, is there any way to accelerate playback of AVCHD footage? On my current system, the footage plays ok for a few secs and then starts to judder. Scrubbing the timeline is impossible. Am I correct in thinking that certain NVIDIA CUDA cards accelerate playback of AVCHD in CS4 like they do in CS5? If so, which card is recommended for CS4?
Thanks

Am I correct in thinking that certain NVIDIA CUDA cards accelerate playback of AVCHD in CS4 like they do in CS5? If so, which card is recommended for CS4?
No. The MPE was added with CS5. This ARTICLE on MPE might be helpful. This also might be a good reason to upgrade, but the CPU is still very important with AVCHD and H.264 footage.
The only way to accelerate the heavily-compressed AVCHD footage is by upgrading the CPU. That is where most of the work is done.
A stout I/O will help some, but the big load is still on the CPU.
Good luck,
Hunt

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Absolutely no problem to import, play and edit SAN0084.mp4 file here...
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Int. HD4: 1TB Seagate Baracuda 7200.12 32mb (Active Video Projects)
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Your CPU Specs for working AVCHD in CS4

I have been reading plenty of mixed reviews about some people having no problems running, and previewing AVCHD material without transcoding, and others saying that it doesnt run for them unless they do transcode, or their system is too weak.
For those of you who have NO PROBLEM editing and previewing native AVCHD footage could you please post your CPU Specs? I would like to get this post to be kind of a guide line for system performance, considering the "recommended" specs are WAY WAY off.
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>> Rendering to H.264 is roughly 3-4 times slower than rendering MPEG-2
...hmmm... this brings me back to the question I just asked elsewhere, which is: How does one properly export AVCHD to H.264 for Blu-Ray without loss of quality? Being as AVCHD *is* H.264, shouldn't the "transcoding" here basically amount to copying the existing data? I'd expect it to be WAYYYYY faster than exporting to MPEG-2 :-/
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Cheers,
Aaron

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Do you think this machine will run LR2 for some time to come:
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