Accessibility in Chat Rooms
I use AVChat on my website for my blind members. I can get them into the room but they need to "Allow" or "Deny" camera and microphone Access in Flash Player Settings.
Apparently their screen readers cannot find the "Allow" or the "Deny" buttons.
I have everything set up so that their webcam (mic and camera) are "on" but we need to be able to bypass the settings box or at least make the buttons "visible" to their screen readers.
Help please.
Thank you.
PS: Is there any way that their screen readers will be able to read text chat?
The problem with the buttons is that they're "contained" within the Flash object that is the container holding the video interface. Unfortunately, that's an accessibility nightmare. As a web desginer it's one of the things I have to educate some clients about. They'll come to me and say "I saw this really cool site and I'd like one built like it." I'll go to the site they're talking about, and see it's a Flash site. Trouble with Flash sites (and with the settings box) is this...
Here's what a regular page looks like:
<html>
<head>
<title>page title</title>
</head>
<body>
<div>
<p>Page content goes here</p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
A "text to speech" converter can read where it says "Page content goes here".
Here's what a Flash page looks like:
<html>
<head>
<title>page title</title>
</head>
<body>
<embed>
<object>[Flash container info here]</object>
</embed>
</body>
</html>
EVERYTHING in the brackets [ ] is invisible. All text, buttons, links... everything. Because like a search spider, text to speech converters look for "renderable" text and inside an embedded object, there is none.
Apart from remote connection, where you could work the mouse on their system from a window on yours, I'm not aware of any way around this limitation.
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I can chat with individuals, but about a week ago, I could not join AIM Chat rooms. The error message reported an AIM socket error.
Following instructions I found here, I dragged my com.apple.iChat.AIM.plist file into the trash.
When I restarted Messages and tried the chat room, I received a different error message.
Error> NoError
I returned to read up on this issue, and was directed toward my firewall settings. After verifying them, I tried once more. Still no joy.
Are there any other ideas?Hi,
We have to look to iChat for some of this.
Previously iChat logged in on port 5190 to a server called login.oscar.aol.com (or slogin...... if you used SSL)
When iChat does Direct IMs (where you send pic or files in a Chat) it changes to a peer-to-peer connection still on port 5190 but on the UDP protocol (The login is using the TCP protocol).
It does the same (changing protocol) when doing Group chats (Chatrooms)
Since iChat 6 and the later Messages version the login was changed to port 443 with Messages also changing to the api.oscar.aol.com server.
However in Group chats and Direct IMs it still uses port 5190 and the UDP Protocol.
If you Firewall is On then you need to unlock it and check the Option button.
The Allow Signed Software option should be ticked.
IMAgent and iChat or Messages (depending on your app) should be in the list.
Stealth should not be used (it messes up Video and Audio only and Screen Sharing connections over AIM and Jabber)
Your router should also be allowing at least this two port 443 and 5190 and the two related Protocols (TCP for 443 and UDP for 5190) if stated.
Having a router doing UPnP should take care of this.
In The Preferences of the app > Accounts > Server Settings tab you also have the option in AIM login to use SSL to login.
Whilst in Messages the server name does not change you are logging into the server differently.
There maybe issues that turning Off SSL may get around (In iChat the Login Server name changes as it uses a different server)
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Unable to open links in chat rooms
I spend some time in a chat room with friends and am unable to click on links to open them. I have tried right click to open, using apple command and clicking. I've copied and pasted into a new browser, but nothing seems to work.
Any ideas?
Thanks!!!Hi,
From your Safari Menu Bar click Safari/Preferences then select the Security tab.
Click: Show Cookies
Delete all cookies related to the website where you access this chat room.
Relaunch Safari and try again.
If that doesn't help, empty the cache from the Safari Menu Bar.
If you have any parental controls activated, that could be factor.
Carolyn -
Can't see/access newly created chat rooms
We have an issue where users can create chat rooms but are unable to see/access them after they're created. Does anyone have any experience with this and knows why this happens and how to fix? Thanks.
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Chat room using multicast socket
hi-
i have a chat room based on multicast socket with a SWING GUI interface. i want group members to be able to establish a shared secret(bases on extended n-party diffie-hellman algorithm) to encrypt all messages exchanged . Re-keying happens upon member join and leave. In order to do key agreement i need to identify the number of subscribers in the multicast chat room all time. i am having trouble setting up a centralized counter to keep track of distributed users 'cause each time a user joins the chat he or she invokes a different copy of the chat program(command line usage: java chatroom <user name>). please help me setting up a counter to count the subscriber and identify joins and leaves.... my main questin is where within the program to set up a counter variable like this to keep track of distributed users? please help...thanks!thanks for your reply... ummm yeah securing a chat room based on multicast poses many problems mainly because of the lack of a chat server. i really haven't gotten any of them sorted out. well the only reason to use encryption is to provide perfect forward secrecy and backward secrecy, meaning a user who just joined the chat room can't decipher any previous session of conversation prior to his join and a user who just left the chat room can't use the group session key he had to decrypt any future conversation. Access control and authorization is ignored. User can join the chat room without permission of the existing members.
yes a flat hierarchy is assumed(all group members are treated equally....no fixed member is given privilege to generate and distribute keys). However, for the key agreement protocol to take place the last joined member is chosen as a group leader and is responsible of re-keying his share in the previous group session key. The newly joined member adds his share and everybody computes the new group session key based on Diffie-Hellman. This group leader role floats...
you are right... without being able to detect joins/leaves and the correct order of those joins and leaves, none of these can be realized.
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Unable to connect to chat room
I recently upgraded to Flash 11.8.800.168 for my Mac and am now unable to access chat rooms that i was previously able to connect with. I receive a message saying "Connection Failed"
Dear Al
Thanks for your reply.
I have just found out what's wrong. I went to the 'more info' section of my Chitchat application and it took me to a link where it explained that Yahoo Chat has ditched chatting with the Java protocol and chatters can now only chat via the Yahoo Messenger protocol, which is Yahoo Instant Messenger with Voice. Unfortunately Yahoo doesn't provide a platform for Yahoo Voice for Macintosh computers. Though the original link I went to provides another link to a thing called 'Adium' from which a Mac can access Yahoo Chat's new protocol, although it's not fully developed yet.
Oh...and thanks so much for letting me know about the Java update release. I did not know that I have to upgrade my system first to recieve the latest update information.
Regards
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i was on a website and i went to their chat room and could not login it said connection failed and i went to the help section the options or reasons said because of java version , and firewalls, but i still cant access it i have a vista home premium and i need to know did i install the wrong java or is their another solutionas to why i cant access the chat room
That's really a question for the administrators of the chat room. The problem would be specific to the particular program they use.
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Setting up Chat Room with Jabber
I am trying to create a chat room for multiple users all using a Jabber (gmail) account within ichat. Is there a special naming protocol to creating a chat room or do you need to create an address somewhere before joining this chat room?
I have no problem doing it with my .me account but for work everyone is on gmail so we ideally be able to use the Jabber accounts for group chats.
I did mange to "create" one called [email protected] (our domain) but when I tried to join I get the grey spinning wheel and don't get any further.
Clearly I'm missing something so any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
SarahHi,
GoogleTalk is supposed to allow group chats.
These tend to be called "Conferences" on most Jabber servers.
Most Jabber servers have a section of additional itme your can "register" for and Login to.
However to do this takes a third party app like Psi.
This can then do "Service Discovery" on the server in question and show what features you can sign up for.
These can include "Transports" that allow you to add Buddies from different services and Conference calls.
Having said that if you do Service Discovery on GoogleTalk you find nothing
Many apps also presume the server name is the last part of your user ID and for Google with it's @gmail.com and @googlemail.com this does not work properly in some of these apps.
This page has Instructions for how to set up a Transport to MSN using Psi and you can see the Service Discovery panel.
Essentially a room has to be given a Name and this is coupled with the Jabber server name it is on so that it looks something like this:-
[email protected]
The room "ralph" is on the conference server at the jabber.org.uk server.
Substituting [email protected] does not seem to work as a room name.
It may pay to start from a Web Browser login and see if a room name becomes apparent that way.
Edit
The last two "links" I have tried to remove the Links but they keep get added back
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Last weekend I finally got my camera to be recognized by iChat.
During the weekend I tried to set up my girlfriend and brother with an account and make a connection.
Me--iChat and iSight with AIM, they, PCs with digicams with USB set to pc camera.
It didn't work, but no biggie--I'm just testing for home office use in the future when I go freelance. So I gave up pretty quick.
So I need to test with other people. The autoresponders in this FAQ worked:
FAQ: Want to Test your iSight With Another Person?
But the other profiles (inviting tests) are not active, as far as individual testing.
So I googled video chat rooms to test, but I got a bunch of nasty sites that made me afraid for my browser.
So where can I go to test, a place where I don't have to give my credit card or worry about virtual STDs?
The truth is, I'm vague on the entire logic of this. I have iChat software, and AIM membership, and go to a video chat room with other people who....have the same exact thing? Or what?Hi Matt,
Like Rj I will be happy to test with you. I keep very irregular hours so I am not online all of the time. I should be available later today if you want to try.
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see link to the right for my details.
There are also some useful iChat links at the bottom of the following FAQ.
<a href="/webx?13@@.68b2d3fe.68a11203.68a11147"> Ralph Johns (UK), "FAQ: Find Links to Things About iChat", 06:58pm Dec 11, 2004 CDT
Hope this helps
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Is there a site/tutorial for setting up Chat room in Messages?
Mac Basics: iChat - Apple Support or a google search for iChat tutorial.
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Jabber Persistent Chat Room oddity
Hi,
I'm currently running Persistent Chat Rooms on version 10.5.1 of Presence. We have recently been experiencing an odd problem with Chat Rooms where they are created as Private rooms, for then to randomly change to Public. The settings are locked down that once a room is created you can't then change its permissions without deleting and recreating. We've had Persistent Chat Rooms set up for a couple of months and its only been the past couple of weeks we have noticed the problem.
Has anyone else come across this and if so found a fix? I've not found anything else on the forum regarding this so am wondering if we're the lucky ones!
Any help would be appreciated,
RobHi Rob
I would start looking at the history of changes i did on the Presence for Persistent Chat rooms on the Group Chat and Persistent Chat option. Specifically under member settings.
Share your screenshot of the above page i will try to replicate in my lab, and also mention the Jabber version you are using.
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In messages you can press Command R and bring up "Go to Chat Room" and the OS X Server is listed in the Account field. How do you create Chat Rooms in OS X Messages Server ?
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ebrindLeopard resolved this.
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How do you join a jabber chat room with a password?
In the latest released version of Messages is it possible to join a Jabber/XMPP chat room that requires a password?
- JimHi,
To be perfectly honest I don't know the answer.
I have never tried to join that type of Chatroom.
I suspect though that it cannot be done in iChat or Messages.
There is no place to add a Password and I have never seen a Pop up
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Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
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This does not happen in other browsers and it happens on a variety of computers I have access to and would seem to be a common problem but I can find no identical cases in my searches of
Firefox , Facebook or windows help or Google search. My home machine is only a P2 with WINXPCORP but works fine and I have done all updates but still have this continuing problem every time I try to use Firefox
to access Facebook chat but it does not happen with IE or chrome
The response to clicking on chat button or friend chat is a black screen with small center square box with blue title bar that says
'' VIEW IMAGE FULL SCREEN - (42) FACEBOOK X""
center of box is ""! "" mark in yellow triangle and wording
"" CANNOT LOAD IMAGES ''' OK
clicking on OK returns to facebook page but no chat opens.
Some times |VERY RARLEY if as the page loades you click on
chat button with 1/2 second of it appearing chat will open.Hi,
Please also see [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Problems%20using%20Facebook%20in%20Firefox this.] -
Before I updated everything worked fine. This is thru safari on the full version of a website. Now after I enter my chat room and everyone can see me and what I type but I can't see them. I was on the phone with apple. 1st call, they had me empty cookies and cache, that didn't work. I did a hard reset? held the off button and the round button. that didn't work, but I was able to see one persons "hi" post. 2nd call they had me do a reset, thru the general in settings(I was also transferred to a supervisor which makes me think that I am the only one with this problem). I was able to see 5 people say hi, but still unable to see them after the intial.
I use to see the little pinwheel at the top left hand side next to ipad and the signal strength pinwheel all the time but now I don't see it doing that. While in the chat.
Any ideas. The supervisor sorta suggested tap-a-talk. But I didn't want to spend the money if I dont have to and Im not sure it would fix this..
I did notify the website the chat room is thru so they know also, but no answers yet.Hi
Have you set the Quicktime settings, goto sys prefs/quicktime/streaming/streaming speed set what you get from your ISP go no higher then 1.5mbps(dont use automatic)
In ichats prefs click on video and change bandwidth limit to NONE.
Restart iChat.
Tony
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