Account Groups for GL Accounts

Hi Experts,
In the Standard, CAIN - Chart of Accounts - India, SAP has given the flg Six GL account Groups....
Do you thing it is required to prepare other than these Account Groups...
   1) Fixed Assets Accounts
   2) Liquid Funds Assets
   3) General G/L Accounts
   4) Material Management Accounts
   5) Income Statement Accounts
   6) Recon. Account Ready for Input
If so please help Gurus what are the Account Groups required for Indian Companies along with GL Accounts Classification...
Please Help
Regards,
Nimish Agarwal
Moderator: Please, avoid asking basic questions

Hi,
For creating this account groups, consultants creates as per the Client requirement.
Ex:
Some Cleints wants to creates only as four groups like
assets,liabilites,income, expenses
Some other Clients are requires
Current assets, fixed assets, depreciation current lianbilities, capital,incomes, revenues, loans and advances, admin expenses,other income,other expenses,acc depreciaiton,reserves and surplus, profit&loss....etc like this
These accoutn groups are easy to understand and idenfies
Hope you got it
Regards,
Kanike

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___path for tolerance groups___
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