Accrul and Account key in Condition

Hi Experts,
I have a specific Requirement, I have created a condition thru M/06 and attached to schema thru M/08. The problem is whenever we use this condition we want that finance entry should be like below mentioned.
SUBCONT PROCESSING CHARGES DEBIT AND GR/IR CREDIT.
What accrul and account key I should use in the condition.
Full Points for helping answer.
Regards
GR

Dear Andra,
Thanks for the answer, actually in our scenario, when we sent material for subcontracting (suppose plating) vendor charges Sales Tax on 60% Value and Job Work Rate for 40% value.
(Example Say vendor charges vat / cst on inr 6/- and No Tax or service Tax on Rs 4/- if total agreed price with the vendor is Rs 10/-). Now we have thought to maintain 6/- as basic price in subcontracing info with tax code and Rs 4/- as other condition with out any tax. Now when we have made condition and incorporate in the info. But it is hitting freight clearing/ freight inward account as accrul and account key is made for freight etc.
Now If you say condition can not be made for GR/IR CR and Sub Proc charges DR, then in what way I should pass the vendor invoice thru MIRO. We don't want to post two miro for one invoice.
Please help me.
Regards
GR

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1.Can anyone explain the difference between accrual and account key ?
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