ACR 6.2 and PSE8

I have ACR 6.1 in PSE8, will 6.2 work or is it only for CS5? Thanks.

If Adobe keeps to past tradition, you will be able to use all releases in the 6.x series with your copy of Photoshop Elements, though the installation procedure has been a bit more manual for Elements than the full version (i.e., you have to copy a file rather than running an integrated updater). Nothing that can't be managed with a little care, though.
-Noel

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ACR 8.3 and D600 .nef Files

I'm using a Nikon D600, shooting with a flaat picture profile to create both RAW and JPG files.
I'm using: Adobe Bridge CC ver: 6.0.1. 6 x64 / Lightroom 5.3 / ACR 8.3 (I'm a CC user and I have all the current software available.)
I have alot of experience with the workflow of Adobe Bridge->ACR->Photoshop using Photoshop CS3 extended version. I'm not sure what the Adobe Bridge Version would've been, nor ACR.
Today, when I look at my .nef files in Adobe Bridge, they are heavily contrasted images. The .jpgs look flat, just like the profile I chose, but the .nef's look like a preset is being applied to them.
I've read the forums topics about .nef files and Camera Profiles, but I've never had to change any preset when I used Bridge->ACR->Photoshop in the past. However, I did go into Adobe Bridge->ACR->Camera Calibration and changed the CAMERA PROFILE to "Camera Neutral" and left the PROCESS as "2012(current)." The "Camera Nuetural" DID help alot. But is that all that is available- or am I missing something?
I thought there was (maybe) a problem with Adobe Bridge, since the images looked like the preset was applied even before I ever tried to open any of the .nef images. So I went into Lr and when I imported the images, they looked like I would expect them to- until I clicked on them. Then I could see the preset being applied. So, I went into Lr->Develop->Camera Calibration and the same 2 settings as mention above where there. So I left the PROCESS as "2012(current), and changed the PROFILE to "Camera Neutral". It helped alot, but is that all that I can do?
Is that all I can do? It seems like too much is being changed on the .nef files without me ever touching them.
Thanks for your help,
Cathey

Thank you Jim. I appreciate your help. I have seen the different profiles that can be applied and the Camera Neutral makes a huge difference in the .nef image (bringing it back to more of a flat image, which is what I wanted).
I have the same issue in Adobe Bridge, and I can select the Camera Neutral from there as well and it makes about the same difference as in Lr.
I've pulled up some older images that I shot with my D200 (I can't tell you what picture profile I shot with). It confirms what I remember from working with .nef files before I got my D600 and started using the CC versions of Lr & Br which is: The .nef files are, well... 'raw', while the .jpgs look 'refined'.
In my case (now) its the complete opposite. My jpegs look 'raw' and my .nef's are punchy, contrasty, bright....
I can't help but wonder why my .nefs are so changed when they're supposed to be raw files. Even when I apply the profile in Lr, or in ACR of "camera neutral" it still does not get me back to what (I believe) the raw image should look like. Why would a .nef look better than the .jpg when I haven't yet applied ANY setting to it. And, if it's the profile in ACR or Lr that is causing this to happen, then why doesn't the .nef image look at least as flat as the .jpg when I change it to 'camera neutral'?
You said that Lr generates its own preview of the raw image data. I guess I don't understand why, then, when I change the image in Lr to Camera Neutral, how come I still have a .nef that is considerably brighter, more contrasty than the original .jpg?

Lightroom doesn't recognize ACR 5.5 and my D300s RAW images

Lightroom 2.4 does not recognize my Nikon D300s RAW images. I downloaded ACR 5.5 and after install both Bridge and Photoshop CS4 handle the D300s RAW images but my Lightroom 2.4 will not import them saying that it is a damaged or unrecognized file type. I have rebooted my entire Vista system and the problem persists. Any suggestions on how I might make Lightroom recognize ACR 5.5 and my D300s RAW images? Thanks in advance.
Harry Campbell

Harry Campbell wrote:
Any suggestions on how I might make Lightroom recognize ACR 5.5 and my D300s RAW images?
You don't want Camera Raw 5.5 (unless you want to use Photoshop CS4), you want the DNG Converter 5.5 which can convert the D300 raws into DNGs that are compatible with Lightroom 2.4. The next version of Lightroom (presumable 2.5) will have the support built in without needing the DNG Conversion...

ACR 8.5 and Nikon NEF: in Photoshop and Lightroom

Today I was on Nikon presentation. A manager from Russian office sad that Nikon gave Adobe some information how to open NEF files CORRECTLY in ACR, but that algorithms can be used ONLY in Photoshop, not in Lightroom. Is that true or fake? As I know, ACR for Ps and Lr is the same in case color reproduction (and has some differences in image correction).

To compare PS/ACR with LR, if you have both products, you can do an Export a TIF from LR and do a Save Image TIF from ACR, using the same parameters, and then open both in PS and layer one on top of the other, set the blend mode to Difference, merge the layers, and see if you have anything besides 0s for the pixel values of the combined layers. You could stretch the image in Levels to make finding any non-zero pixels, easier.
It has been said, above, that LR 5.x versions had a bug where they did not apply noise-reduction or sharpening in some situations during the Export so its important to understand what precise versions of the products you're talking about. Intending for the raw-conversion algorithms to be the same, and a coding error making them not so are two different things. In other words the mathematics would be the same, but the implementation in a different programming language by different people could have coding errors.
As far as which of Nikon Capture or Adobe Lightroom/PS-ACR is better, the words someone says or writes are a fact if you have the recording or original documents, but the idea they are communicating is an opinion and you can really only list pros and cons for someone else to draw their own conclusion, and unless you're quoting word-for-word, your interpretation of what is being said is also somewhat of an opinion, yours.

Strange Artifacts in ACR 3.7 and 4.0 and D70s NEF files???

Hi to all. Yesterday i found strange bug in ACR 3.7 and higher (4.0). When open some of my D70s nefs some artiffacts appear in my images, especially in overexposed arreas. In ACR 3.6 and Nikon Capture this artifacts does not appear. What is wrong with this versions of ACR?
ACR 3.6 converted image:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3420/acr36qx8.jpg
[IMG]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3420/acr36qx8.jpg[/IMG]
ACR 4.0, same image and convertion settings:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6792/acr40jv1.jpg
[IMG]http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6792/acr40jv1.jpg[/IMG]
Nikon Capture NX, same image:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7800/capturenxjs5.jpg
[IMG]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7800/capturenxjs5.jpg[/IMG]
ACR 4.0, Another image, same problem:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7254/acr40secondni6.jpg
[IMG]http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7254/acr40secondni6.jpg[/IMG]

> seems that problem is caused by CPU ...
In the case of the Pentax files, it was Macs (OK) WIntel (NOT).
I also forgot to mention that Thomas Knoll stated a fix would be forthcoming only for ACRv4 and lightroom versions. The symptoms are definitely the same, but you have to wonder if it's the same problem, and for which ACR versions a fix will be forthcoming.
cheerios :)

Cautionary note re ACR 4.4 and Lightroom 1.4

On the Adobe blogs, Tim Hogarty writes that ACR 4.4 and Lightroom 1.4 are being taken down:
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2008/03/important_lightroom_14_and_cam.html

Try reading the blog...
>The Lightroom 1.4 update for Mac and Windows has been temporarily removed from the Adobe.com web site....
>....For those not in immediate need of the updated camera support available in Camera Raw 4.4 or the DNG 4.4 Converter, it's recommended that you also continue working with the 4.3.1 versions.
There is nothing about ACR or DNG 4.4 being removed.

ACR 4.6 and PSE6 Organizer still crashes

I posted this a long time ago for ACR 4.5 and I'm gonna do it again for CR 4.6. Please read below I'm still having the same problem with ACR 4.6 (BETA).
I'm experiencing the following problem when I download ACR 4.5 to be used with PSE6.
The problem is that the PSE6 Organizer crash when I try to open the Organizer Preferences. Aparently this only happens with Windows
Vista because I know of other users with XP and they are not expiriencing this.
I did try it with the original ACR 4.2 and works well.
I did try it with the previous ACR 4.4 and works well.
It only happens when you install the 4.5 and go to the Organizer's Preferences.
And stills happens with ACR 4.6.
When I contact the Adobe Customer Support they told me to wait until the new version of ACR, well I guess that nobody there analyze/investigate/test my issue.
Regards
Hector

Héctor,
I ran ACR 4.5 for a short while with Photoshop Elements under Vista Home Premium without ever seeing your problem.
Being a Mac user accustomed to the full version of Photoshop, which I still use on my Mac desktop, I was so frustrated by the limitations of Photoshop Elements I was running on the Windows Vista laptop that I asked for a refund from Adobe (and got it too). But I never had anything crash on me while running ACR 4.5 on it.

ACR 4.6 and Elements 5 for D90?

Hi,
I have downloaded the beta ACR 4.6 and copied the Camera Raw.8bi file to:
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 5.0\Plug-Ins\File Formats\
It is correctly installed as when I open Nikon D40 .NEF files already in the Organiser it opens ACR4.6. However when I try and import Nikon D90 .NEF files I receive an error message saying the files are corrupt/not a supported format and therefore cannot be imported into the Organiser.
Am I doing something wrong or is there a workaround?
Thanks,

Hi Jeff,
Yes I use a card reader. It's not an issue with reading the card as I'm currently shooting the D90 as RAW+Fine JPEG. When I launch Elements Photo Downloader it shows me the NEF files + the JPEGS but only the thumbprint image for the JPEGs (The NEF files all have the same icon). It allow me to select both the NEFs + JPEGs for loading into the organiser but then fails to load the NEFs, saying the file is unrecognised or damaged.
I can however open the NEFs from ACR4.6 within the Elements 5 editor. I'm assuming therefore that ACR 4.6/the editor are fine working with D90 NEFs but the 'Photo Downloader' part of Elements isn't.
Any further thoughts?
Cheers,
Rob

Is there a good workflow between LR2.6 and PSE8?

Is there a good workflow between LR2.6 and PSE8? I am new to PSE and would like to use it as a secondary editor but continue to use LR to manage my photos. I read that PSE8 will handle raw format but can not get LR to export other than TIF, JPG and PSD. I woiuld appreciate tips fro others doing the same.

I noticed with one of my two LR2.6/PSE8 installations, that LR did not pick up PSE8 automatically as installed. I had to add the key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe
with two values to the registry (obviously I'm a WinXP user).
The attached .txt file embedded in the .zip shows the key and the two values needed in my case. To add the values to a registry, extact the .txt file from the .zip, remove the .txt extension from the name to make it a .reg file and double click it (at your own risk!).
After adding them, LR would show Edit in Adobe Photoshop Elements ... as an option, which it would not before.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland
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Sony A300 ACR Defaults noisy and over exposed

I have a A300, ACR 5.1 and Elements 6.0 I have recently compared three raw plugins, Adobe ACR, Sony's image convertor and Silkypix free. With the Sony s/w I turned off all automatic processing. The results are a surprise.
The same raw file has much more noise when being opened in ACR and requires a great deal of exposure reduction to reduce highlights and get the highlight warning to disappear from within the plugin.
When saved as jpegs from the various covertors the ACR is noiser and all settings seem too strong. On very noisey photos (or at least photo that look noisey from within ACR) it some times isn't possible to clean up the noise. It just doesn't seem ACR is doing a propper job of opening the Sony raw files.
I do like the ACR plugin and it is much quicker than the Sony but at the moment there does a ppear to be a quality loss using it.

OK, well I just tried this on a landscape image that is basically almost all high/mid frequency:
Amount 150
Radius 0.5
Detail 0
Masking 0 (although I would mask appropriately with any image)
and then compared it to
Amount 35
Radius 0.5
Detail 100
Masking 0
Critical viewing was at 100, 200, 300 and 400% in ACR.
I am really surprised at this! Although the sharpening is extremely close to the same amount in appearance (at 100%) the first settings with detail at 0, to my eye has a lot cleaner edges (less halowing) and definitely less artifacting in smoother areas (even w no masking). Basically at the edges of the image there seems to be less feathering of pixels transitioning them (may interpolate up better this way?).
I will do some more testing, to see how the file then handles Sharpening for Output (with the new datail at 0 settings). I am thinking at this point that your detail at 0 idea might be sound. Less artifacting and cleaner edges seems to mean that the file will take more aggressive sharpening after up sizing it, and then the grain simulation I use to disguise the artifacting may be able to be a little less aggressive.
Question, do you still approach the masking (ACR) the same way?
Lastly, I tried using the first settings of sharpening on an image interpolated to max size in ACR (about 20MP) and then tried the same capture sharpening settings on an image at native size (about 12MP) then interpolated up to 20MP using PS Smoother (remembering that ACR applies the sharpening after the uprez). I have found the ACR uprez to have more detail at ultra zoom levels. But if ACR applies the capture sharpening after the ACR uprez (if my reading is right, Jeff S said that) and the other is capture sharpened at native pixel size and then uprezzed with Bicubic Smoother, aren't I just comparing apples with oranges? Also, when taking a image from 12.9 to 19.5MP is the ACR interpolating using its algorithm that is like Smoother?

Profiles ACR 3.3 and ACR 4.4 missing?

I have Photoshop CS4 installed with ACR 5.3. I ran the camera profiles installer that accompanied the ACR plugin module in the update download. (Though the download was labeled ACR and DNG, the DNG installer was missing in action.) Presently I'm awaiting a second (replacement) 5D Mark II, but meanwhile I noticed that if I open a RAW file from the 5D in ACR, I have the ACR 3.3 and ACR 4.4 profiles listed in the Camera Profiles pop-up menu along with the 'camera' profiles, as I'm used to. But when I open a Mark II RAW file, the ACR 3.3 and 4.4 profiles aren't listed. Can anyone say why they're not accessed along with the camera profiles in the latter case?

Bishop10 wrote:
Can anyone say why they're not accessed along with the camera profiles in the latter case?
Sure...since the 5D MII was not supported in any earlier versions of Camera Raw, the first version to support it was ACR 5.3.
Since ACR 5.2, the DNG Profiles are the primary profiles for any new cameras added AFTER ACR 5.2. As a result, there will _NEVER be any earlier profiles for new cameras that ship after the release of the DNG Profile update. So, the Adobe Standard is now the primary default profile and the other vender matching profiles are also supplied.
There will never be any earlier profiles because Adobe isn't profiling cameras that way any more (which most people think is a really good thing).

Run PE8 (and PSE8) with 64-bit Win 7

My hardware
Dell XPS 600 desktop
3.2 Mhz Intel Pentium D
64-bit Win 7 OS (full clean custom install)
dual-STI NVIDIA GForce 6800 video cards (w/64-bit drivers)
6 GB RAM
What's the latest word on successfully running PE8 (and PSE8) with 64-bit Win 7 (particularly with my current very stable computer setup above)?

I haven't had any serious issues as such with my Win7 64 bit PC.
~V

Mixing ACR 5.7 and 6.2

I grew quite fond of processing my RAW shots through ACR, accessed through Bridge CS4. I'm a Mac PSE user, and thought I got a pretty good trade: give up PSE Organizer, get full-featured ACR. "Expose to the Right," adjustment brushes, presets...rah!
Sadly, that gig is partially up: PSE8 ships with Organizer and de-featured ACR 6.2. Upgrading to full PS just to get full ACR is too expensive. So, unless I move to LR, I'm wondering what happens if I mix-and-match 5.7 and 6.2. Use ACR 5.7 for initial workflow, including capture sharpening and most edits. For selected images that are the keepers (and/or merit PS editing), open in Elements ACR 6.2, change to PV2010, adjust sharpening and noise reduction there.
My two questions:
the noise reduction in PSE ACR 6.2 seems to be the improved stuff, correct? And no sliders for luminance and color detail, so are those effectively set to zero?
the PSE ACR 6.2 seems to read OK any of the changes made in 5.7 (adjustment brushes, graduated filters), so my guess is under the hood the XMP processing is pretty full-featured...anything that I should NOT do in 5.7 because the PSE version of 6.2 can't/won't read it?
thx

stewch wrote:
…The Bridge CS4 that I have came as part of PSE.
…and you're saying you think that gives you a full version of ACR 5.7?
Wow !
You mean you see all nine adjustment tabs, all the subtabs and all the adjustment sliders in ACR 5.7?
1.— Basic   (11 sliders)
2.— Tone Curve
       (Parametric sub-tab 4 sliders; +
        Point sub-tab)
3.— Detail (5 sliders)
4.— HSL/Grayscale tab
       Hue sub-tab (8 sliders), +
       Saturation sub-tab (8 sliders), +
       Luminance sub-tab (8 sliders)
5.— Split Toning tab (5 sliders)
6.— Lens Corrections tab (7 sliders), including
       Lens Vignetting, and Post-Crop Vignetting
7.— Camera Calibration tab (7 sliders) +
       Camera Profile popup menu
8.— Presets tab
9.— Snapshots tab.
This is certainly news to me. Please confirm.
Wo Tai Lao Le
我太老了

Is there a way to Uninstall ACR 5.5 and reinstall 5.4? Bridge doesn't recognize this version.

Hey there. Running Mac os x 10.5.8 on a MacBook Pro...
I had to reinstall my whole CS4 Master Creative Suite because a couple of the programs went missing.
First step was uninstalling all the other programs and preferences through Adobe unistaller, then reinstalled and did all the updates. (Photoshop is 11.0.1 now). All updates finished loading successfully except that it was having trouble with the camera raw 5.4 update. It would say it was installed but when I checked the version in photoshop it would say it is the 5.0.0.178 version. So I updated the camera raw to 5.5 (because I use a Nikon D5000).
5.5 plugin now works fine in Photoshop but in Bridge, the camera raw preferences is "greyed out" and I can't read any NEFs.
Don't know where to go from here. The plugins folder in the root Library shows one plugin in the cs4 folder and that is the 5.5.
When I try to install the 5.4 version again, it reads that it can't install because I am running a newer version.
Thanks for your help. Got some NEF editing to do and this is a major obstacle....
Johnny G

Thanks Jeff. The full path is HD/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plugins/CS4. It was automatically installed.
Also, the programs went missing because my computer froze and when I rebooted, any programs that were running at the time were no where to be seen, in the apps folder, in spotlight, the trash, etc. It's a mystery to me and I was a IT tech for quite a few years until recent. (Perhaps aliens abducted my programs.) That's the best I could figure out. Even my Entourage went missing and I needed to reinstall this and import an archived folder of mail - lost the most recent email...
I bought this computer new a few months ago and have updated to 10.5.8 by the normal "software update" function.
Purging the folders did not work because Bridge still does not recognize that there is a camera raw plugin installed. The "camera raw preferences" still remains "greyed out" when you click on the Adobe Bridge CS4 tab in Bridge.
Also, when I go to the Adobe uninstaller, I'm not able to uncheck mark the box for the camera raw....
Perhaps there is a link to just the 5.4 plugin (standalone?) that I can exchange for the 5.5? The camera raw folder in Application Support/Adobe has all the latest camera preferences including the D5000 which just was updated in ACR. So maybe just making a switch? Or is that too old school?
Oh yes, created another user account, repaired permissions and any disk issues - yet, same problem.
Thanks again!
Johnny

ACR 5.x and Canon EOS 5D Mark II with FW 1.0.7 sRAW1/2

Hi,
is there a ACR update in the line for the Canon EOS 5D Mark II loaded
with the new Firmware 1.0.7?
With the new Firmware 1.0.7 sRAW1 files and sRAW2 files will apparently show a magenta shift in darker areas.
Info to the new Firmware:
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/firm-e/eos5dmk2/firmware.html
thank you

Eric, maybe you can have a look at the highlight repair issue on:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.59b77b09
the files i am talking about are:
http://homepage.mac.com/nmacheck/_MG_1504_highlight.dng
http://homepage.mac.com/nmacheck/_MG_1504_normal.dng
and also
http://homepage.mac.com/nmacheck/NikolausMacheck_Adobe_1079_highlight.dng
http://homepage.mac.com/nmacheck/NikolausMacheck_Adobe_1079_normal.dng
Cheers,
Nikolaus

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