ACR/Canon D5 Colour Balance - nasty pinkish skin tones

I use macbook pro, 2.33GHz/3GB 667MHz RAM with CS3 and ACR 4.3.1. I shoot Canon D5.
When I shoot RAW, I get this strange pinkish look to the skin tones that I can't seem to correct. I've experimented with colour balance and hue, and the HSL and camera calibration tools, but not happy yet.
Apologies if this is a basic issue, but would love some advice.
Thanks.

I think that is a standard catch-all message but it really is a poor show that a simple download page is so often unavailable.
Just part of the new look Adobe. It really is a pity there's no serious competition yet, but if they keep going downhill at the present rate there will be!

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Are presets available to fine tune skin tones in Camera Raw, perhaps by tweaking colors and hue/saturation/luminance settings in the HSL/Grayscale menu?
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I found one preset, after visiting this adobe forums thread:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bbed80a/1
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Thanks for the links to chromoholics and creativepro. My last experience with creating a custom camera profile wasn't that successful, but that was a long time ago, and I probably shouldn't let that discourage me from trying again. If that's the ultimate solution, you've told me what I need to know.
For whatever it's worth, though, I've shot with two 5Ds, and can't tell the CR2s they produce apart. ACR at default settings yields the same (to me) objectionable, pale apricot skin tone from the CR2s of both cameras.
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Is it possible to change the colour of the Pages' skin, since it is grey, is there any way to change it and make it less tedious?

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Our EFFECT COLOUR CORRECTION COLOUR BALANCE feature doesn't work on solids. Any clues?

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On the linked page is the file + full instructions:
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I agree with Mylenium. There are some serious flaws in the instructions. With no colour in the solid, Color Balance will have no effect.
But your project is also incorrectly built, according to the instructions: you've duplicated the mask 5 times, rather than the layer.
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Colour Balance

Hi,
I'm looking for a set of controls in Aperture that approximates the 'Colour Balance' option in Photoshop. I saved an action in Photoshop that I used to warm my shots.
My setting in photoshop was to drag the Red/Cyan balance slightly to Red and the Yellow/Blue balance slightly to the Yellow, which produced a nice, rounded warmth.
In Aperture, despite detailed colour controls, I can't seem to find one that adjusts the balance in the same way. They are all individually adjusted for Saturation and Luminance etc...
The white balance tool in Aperture doesn't really offer the same control. Its a bit like Colour Balance in PS but without the Cyan/Red & Magenta/Green sliders
Any thoughts?
Thanks.

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Bayer Filter and colour balance.

Hi all.
I have recently been acquiring images using a mikrotron MC1363 camera and LV code 'Grab and save to AVI'. I have then used ImageJ to create a stack of U8 images. My problem then arises in that I need to apply a bayer filter and colour balance to the images. I have been sent a correction matrix by mikrotron and extracted pixel intensities from the U8 images, but am now stuck. I don't know how to use the information accrued to give a debayered image of true colour. Any advice would be great.
Attached is:
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Attachments:
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Hi Danbubbles,
The pixels of the Bayer filter are arranged in a checkerboard pattern on the sensor. There are twice as many green as red and blue pixels in order to mimic the higher sensitivity of the human eye towards green light.
Due to the filter each pixel measures only one color. The two remaining colors are estimated (interpolated) using the eight surrounding pixels. This technique is called Bayer demosaicing or Bayer to RGB Conversion.
http://www.stemmer-imaging.co.uk/en/glossary/5287-Bayer-Filter
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you "move" a structuring element - which is like a subset of your input-image - across your input-picture starting at row = 0 column = 0, which is indexing the same pixel in both of your input AND output-image: http://www.mathworks.de/help/images/morph6.gif
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then you calculate a new value for this particular pixel in your output-image via interpolating the indexed pixel and its adjacent pixels in the input-image, e.g. like described in this pdf:
http://www.matrix-vision.com/tl_files/mv11/Glossary/art_bayermosaic_en.pdf
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then you move on to the next pixel which should be at row 0, column 1
repeat, until you reach the pixel at row n, column m
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Request better support skin tone evaluation/measurement

Hello. I am writing this with the intention that it will be read by the folks at Adobe that are involved in the development of Lightroom. I'm pretty new to this forum, however, and I'm a little confused about whether this feature requests thread actually goes to the Adobe Lightroom team, considering that it is in a user-to-user forum. If there is a better avenue to get my feature request to Adobe, I would appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction.
Before I get into my request, I also want to mention that I did my due diligence and searched this thread to make sure this has not been requested before.
I am submitting this request because I do not see any useful way to measure or evaluate skin tone in Lightroom while adjusting white balance (or after adjusting white balance, for that matter). I can do a mouse-over to read RGB values, but I am not aware of any useful way to use RGB values for evaluating skin tones.
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Regards,
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There are other ways Adobe can implement skin tone management that would be more powerful but a little more complicated. Those would be great too.
Anyway, thanks for the link to the Adobe feature request page! I will use it.
Regards,
Mike

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I found this in a Larry Jordan article,
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The Boost slider under the Raw Fine Tuning change the contrast of the image. I set it up to be 0.80 as default, sometimes I lower it even more. Then I use the controls under the exposure section to adjust the exposure and contrast. I finish it with the levels adjustments.
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