[ACS 5.2.0.26] How to install cumulative update?

Hello,
I want to install cumulative patch 9 for Cisco ACS 5.2.0.26
I found installation guide:
http://www.cisco.com/web/software/282766937/37718/Acs-5-2-0-26-9-Readme.txt
Instructions on how to install the patch  ========================================
1. open CLI console
2. define new repository in which the 5-2-0-26-9.tar.gpg resides
3. issue: 'acs patch install 5-2-0-26-9.tar.gpg repository YOUR_REPOSITORY'
We have configured 2 ACS appliances in "Split ACS Deployment"
How to install cumulative patch on 2 servers?
If I install on primary server, does the patch replicate on secondary?
Thanks for your help,
Patrick

There is no need to deergister the secondary server. Can run with different patch versions for release
This would not work with running with two different releases (5.2 versus 5.3) in which case would need to be deregistered

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    Microsoft Access Services English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
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    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
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    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Excel Web App English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
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    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft InfoPath Form Services English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (English) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Web Apps English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft Office Web Apps (KB2687470) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Web Apps Proof (English) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Web Apps Shared Coms English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft Office Web Apps (KB2687470) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft OMUI English Language Pack
    14.0.4763.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Project Server English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Search Server 2010 English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Shared Coms English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Foundation 2010 1033 Lang Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Portal English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Slide Library English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Visio Services English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Web Analytics English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Word Server English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft XMUI English Language Pack
    14.0.4763.1000
    Installed
    PerformancePoint Services in SharePoint 1033 Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Language Pack for SharePoint, Project Server and Office Web Apps 2010 - Portuguese/Português (Brasil)
    Installed
    Microsoft Access Services Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Document Lifecycle Components Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Excel Services Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Excel Web App Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft InfoPath Form Services Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (Portuguese (Brazil)) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Web Apps Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Web Apps Proof (Portuguese (Brazil)) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Web Apps Shared Coms Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft OMUI Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Project Server Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Search Server 2010 Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Shared Coms Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Foundation 2010 1046 Lang Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Portal Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Slide Library Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Visio Services Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Web Analytics Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Word Server Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft XMUI Portuguese (Brazil) Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    PerformancePoint Services in SharePoint 1046 Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft 2010 Server Language Pack (KB2687462) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010
    Installed
    Microsoft Access Services English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Access Services Server
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Document Lifecycle Components
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Document Lifecycle Components English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Excel Mobile Viewer Components
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Excel Services Components
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Excel Services English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft InfoPath Form Services English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft InfoPath Forms Services
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (Arabic) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (English) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (French) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (German) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (Russian) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Office Server Proof (Spanish) 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Search Server 2010 Core
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Search Server 2010 English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Shared Components
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Shared Coms English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Hotfix for Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (KB2775353) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.6128.5000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Foundation 2010 1033 Lang Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Foundation 2010 Core
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Portal
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Portal English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Slide Library
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Slide Library English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft User Profiles
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    14.0.6029.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Visio Services English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Visio Services Web Front End Components
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Web Analytics English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Web Analytics Web Front End Components
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Word Server
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Word Server English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    PerformancePoint Services for SharePoint
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    PerformancePoint Services in SharePoint 1033 Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft® Project Server 2010
    Installed
    Microsoft Project Server 2010
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Project Server English Language Pack
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Microsoft Project Server Web Front End Server
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed
    Service Pack 2 for Microsoft SharePoint and Project Server 2010 (KB2687452) 64-Bit Edition
    14.0.7015.1000
    Installed

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