Actions and Magic Move bug?

Symptom: When making a transition on one particular slide the "static" slide appears for a moment before making a successful transition.
Description: I have a slide on which there are several text boxes that appear and then move to different locations on the slide. One text box is used as the magic move link, this text box has no actions attached to it.
When the "static" slide is viewed in keynote the result is very confused with text boxes overlaid on each other - as expected.
When I play the slide transition in the slide show mode the first slide completes all its moves and then fleetingly displays the "static" version of the slide before successfully completing the transition.
Any suggestions as to what might be the cause of this behavior?
Thanks

I then add Magic Move transition between slides, which works great, until the object pops back down to it's original slide instead of staying at the scaled size.
Why have you added a magic move transition, what are you trying to achieve, that the actions in slide 1, do not do?

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Actions and Magic Move transition

In several slides, I have added a SCALE action and a MOVE action to objects in the slide. I then add Magic Move transition between slides, which works great, until the object pops back down to it's original slide instead of staying at the scaled size. Is there a way to make my SCALE action stick once the transition/move is complete?

I then add Magic Move transition between slides, which works great, until the object pops back down to it's original slide instead of staying at the scaled size.
Why have you added a magic move transition, what are you trying to achieve, that the actions in slide 1, do not do?

Magic Moves not always Magic (non-linear slide orders)

Magic Moves opens the possibility of non-linear slide orders with animated transitions. Previously in keynote (KN '08), as far as I could ascertain, this was impossible. Now a slide with several hyper-linked objects can enjoy an animation of the on screen objects to there new positions, where-ever they may be on the on the linked slides.
Unfortunately, as in some other things Keynote, it seems flakey. While it works most of the time for some reason, even when duplicating the linking slide and repositioning the very same objects, the Move is delayed and instantaneous: decidedly not Magic!
The joy of being able to finally make the fully interactive Keynote presentation that will slide objects the right amount automatically according to there destination slide seems possible. The great thing is I don't have to construct all the different moves linking 26 different pages to each other via various routes (8 links on each page, which happened to be 8x26 possible linking routes = 208 move builds: too much for prescriptive build/move animations).
But if I can't get it too work 100% I can't really show my client. Any know issues with this Magic Move stuff?
I can replicate problem but not predict when it won't work or decode what is triggering the problem. Searching forum only revealed comment the Magic Move is work in progress. Note I am not scaling any objects. Can upload if it helps. Part of the original Presentation with a linear narrative can be seen at:
http://www.vimeo.com/3018559
Essentially I am endeavouring to make all the images 'clickable' so the film strip glides (against the preset order) to become the centre project. Also like to add a left and right button. All this can be theoretically done with invisible rect's with hyperlinks and Magic moves on each slide.
Thanks for reading though all this – hope it's clearer than mud.

Thanks for the response, Kyn.
As it happens writing that long explanation, I thought I'd look from another angle and returned to the file – finding the answer straight away.
Conclusion:
Hyperlinks never use Magic Move transition, even if it is selected transition for the slide. I was getting hoodwinked by the fact that when I had forward and back arrows with hyperlinks to other slides, those slides were before and after the current slide. So they were Magic Moving with a mouse click on the Hyperlink, but only when forward one slide or backward one slide. Any other linking distance failed to Magic Move.
I've already made the feature request but *please second it*, this would be a very powerful feature. Think Non-Linear Presentations and Info Kiosks with seamless transitions. And interaction is an area Powerpoint has decided edge on Keynote so it can and needs to be closed! (PP is such a trial of an interface after KN).
http://www.apple.com./feedback/keynote.html
I'll post the .keynote as requested when uploaded.

Magic Move and Charts

I was watching the video of todays WWDC keynote and at one point Phil Schiller was showing a graph that smoothly changed vertical size and scale when transitioning between one slide and another. He then said (I am paraphrasing) "Magic Move in Keynote".
I went right to my Keynote '09 and have spent the last 45 minutes trying to get Keynote to do such a smooth Magic Move transition. Started with a scatter chart. Generated on a page, copied and pasted in the next and just shrunk the vertical size. No smooth transition. I removed the legend from both. Same no go. Tried it with 4 other chart types and in none did Magic Move smoothly transition a chart from one page into another where the size was changed.
Has anyone else done this? Look at the WWDC video - it happens with Phil's first part of the presentation showing numbers of OsX users. Can anyone duplicate this with a chart???

I think so. There is no other way. As I said it's not perfect. Magic Move makes the animation dependent from the objects being at front and at back. To make it perfect, you need to care about that. As this would REALLY take time I didn't do so. But I think Apple does have employees for that
You can do the diagram with keynote, then remove all gridlines etc. copy it and paste it into Photoshop as a Vector smart object. Then save it as a .psd file and put it back into keynote....

Early today Alt, Ctr and Click and drag changed the brush size. Now it makes the move tool work. Anyone have this problem. I think Adobe had an update and put a bug in the program.

Early today Alt, Ctr and Click and drag changed the brush size. Now it makes the move tool work. Anyone have this problem. I think Adobe had an update and put a bug in the program.

Which version of photoshop and operating system are you using?
windows:
Alt + right click + drag left or right
mac:
Control + Option + left click + drag left or right

Magic move and fade or opacity change

I would like to move an image onto the stage with a dissolve or fade or opacity change so that as it moves in it goes from 0% to 100%.
Thank you.

Do to that select the item that you want to move in and drag it off the canvas and under the Graphic Tab in the inspector change the Opacity to 0%. Then in the Build Tab of the inspector click Action. Then in the drop down menu click move. You can adjust where it will move to, how long it will take, Acceleration and Path. Then Add Action and select Opacity and move to 100%. Again you can select how long it will take.
Finally, click More Options at the bottom and select the Opacity and under Start Build select Automatically with Build 1.

Another "Magic Move" question...

*Hi there!*
I'm trying Keynote 09 and all goes fine, except for this *"Magic Move"* thing.
I can actually "move" one object through both slides, but can't go further than that; if I try to scale it, rotate or everything else that's not just repositioning on x and y axis, all I get is a darkened (and often cropped) image which moves towards the final position and suddenly gets replaced by the modified one at the end of the transition.
Since I'm on an old hardware and running Tiger, I was wondering if there was some sort of hw limitation for the Magic Move transition +(although the ones for which I know hw limitations do exist are regularly grayed out in their menu and MM is the only one that gives me problems)+.
I've tried every suggestion I came across in this forum and over the net, but still had no luck +(even thou' I couldn't find anyone else experiencing the same problem)+.
I've already re-installed the iWorks demo...
Any hint?
TIA!
ale

Hi, Pesto1.
Yep, I know... MM is pretty young and Keynote itself is not so much older, after all (and still is WAY better than PPT).
I must say I'm pretty satisfied with all its feature, even if - me too - I can see all of their potentials and often find myself thinking about improvements more as a +"*Keynote Pro*"+ application build, rather than some actual improvement on Keynote itself
There are probably too many... people coming from Graphics/DTP have their own, people coming from Flash have others and so do people coming from video-editing.
(I still didn't get why did Apple cut out QT's capability of reading .swf files, to say one).
On the other side, if we're using Keynote is because we need something editable by our clients (if it wasn't for that, I think I'd rather go for a Flash presentation); and clients - or intermediate users in general - are pretty rarely skilled enough to deal with _too many_ choices.
I think Apple's trying to keep Keynote as simple as it can, yet powerful.
And, indeed, it IS pretty much simpler than PPT, yet way more powerful.
*Back to the "MM" thing...*
I know it has some limitation, but - on my side - it's not working *at all*.
It does move objects, but if I resize (no crop, no template text, no group) or just rotate them, it doesn't work anymore.
+And by "doesn't work" I mean it randomly crops images/objects, moves them and then suddenly pops them up in their final position; no fading as when "it does nothing".+
I managed to get a file in which I've seen (on another Mac) MM working as it should, and I experienced the very same issues (on my G4).
The only thing I can think about at this point is the G4 Graphic Card that is pretty obsolete, and probably MM is one of those "GPU stresser" effects. What makes me doubt about it is that Apple didn't mention it in the iWorks specs.
And the fact that I couldn't find any other similar complaint on the whole Internet.
+(I've been googling around so much for this I think this month Google's gonna send me a bill)!!+ :/
Or maybe is just the fact that no one uses G4s anymore?
It sounds logical and unacceptable at the same time.
No one here "magic moving" anything on a G4?
I'd love to hear some clear words about it, so that I can decide whether to stop looking around or try to improve my search skills.
As for your issues, maybe there could be some workaround...
1. If you have to crop your image, probably making a placeholder IN which you resize the image and the placeholder itself through MM, could work.
+(I can't try this myself 'cause... well, I wouldn't be here if I could)+ :/
2. I think it's fair you can't move template objects in general +(I also come from DTP, where "Masters pages" and their elements *must not* be editable, unless you badly want to)+. But I think if you just select the text boxes you want to move, making a command-X ("cut") and command-V should "unchain" them from the master slide and make them become brand new objects.
+EDIT: just tried it and it does work (at least just moving it), even directly on template text boxes. Am I missing something?+
3. Groups are evolving... Keynote is not enough skilled on groups, yet.
(I wish I could group many object with different actions/builds applied without losing them forever). Sorry... I have no hint on this.
As for the slide not accepting different timing that's not a (direct) bug of Keynote, but is the way Keynote imports files from PPT.
Dunno if it's Keynote to blame or PPT, but somehow I tend to bet on the last one.
That is a HUGE problem, 'cause I often have to convert PPT presentations made by clients and all of the effects and transitions are stuck in PPT time (which is more than often around 2,00 sec!!).
You can figure what a "PIA" it is to remove each effect on every object and then re-apply them just to have time control back!
And I'm talking of hundreds of slide with 3-8 objects per each!
+(I wish there was a script or something that could read PPT timing format and kinda "translate" it in a Keynote one).+
Btw... if it's only one or a couple of slide, it's no big deal.
Select the action or transition you don't get the timing control on, put the action to "none" and then re-apply the same effect/transition.
You'll have your timing control back.
+(If i did get what you mean).+
cià
ale

Bar Chart Dissapears after Magic Move

Okay, I have a bizarre Keynote bug that i have been able to nail down the occurrence but not the solution. Here is what happens:
1) I have a magic move occur early in the presentation
2a) Later whenever I display a bar chart that is animated the values appear but the bars do not
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I've tried starting a new keynote presentation and I still get the error. Really weird. Curious if anyone has a solution and I can send the Keynote file anyone adventurous enough to try to solve it.
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What's the secret to magic move

I've been using Keynote for years and have yet to fully understand how to dependably get magic move to do what I want. At times it feels like there's no rhyme or reason. One moment a transition is working and the next it's unrepeatable.
Has anyone found a detailed magic move tutorial that explains the magic?
Or perhaps you might have some specific tips that will clear things up?
Thanks!

From page 107 of the Keynote User Guide:
Tips for Creating a Magic Move Transition
Magic Move doesn’t work with tables, charts, or movies.
For best results with a Magic Move transition, duplicate the slide and apply the Magic Move transition between the original and the duplicate.
To set up a Magic Move transition:
1 Create a slide and place the objects (text, shapes, images) where you want them.
2 Select the slide in the Slide Navigator and press Command-D to duplicate the slide.
3 On the copy of the slide, reposition and resize some or all of the text, shapes, and images on the slide.
4 Add any additional text or graphics you want to add to the copied slide, and delete any objects you don’t want on it.
5 Select the first slide of the pair and apply the Magic Move transition.
That being said, there are a lot of little tricks. For example, you can usually group objects to exclude them from Magic Move matching, and if you have an object that isn't matching between slides, usually deleting it from the second, copying it from the first, then pasting it onto the second will match them.
Do you have specific examples of Magic Move not doing what you want it to? If so, we might be able to help you out.
(And if you want Apple to know about it and hopefully fix it in the next release, you could tell them what isn't working for you via their feedback form, or—to be ESPECIALLY helpful—file a bug at http://bugreporter.apple.com and attach the misbehaving Keynote decks to those bugs.)

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Slides 7, 8 & 9: The bottom row of coins rearranges between transitions.
Slide 9 & 10: The caption "6 Ways" uses the anagram transition which is intended only for the title.
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Magic Move issue

I've seen some threads about this but thought I would post a new query.
When I use Magic Move in KN 09 it works great, with both text and shapes. I duplicate the slide and reposition the object and when I transition from one slide to the next, all works great. UNLESS.. I do any alteration to the object. If I change the shape size or text size, magic move just no longer works. It is a duplicated object, works fine if I do nothing to it, but once I changes some parameters, MM no longer works.
A Bug?
Know of a workaround?
Thanks, John

People report issues with scaling and rotating objects – translations work fine under almost all circumstances (some dimensioning limitations). Try breaking moves down into a series of slides to see what works and what doesn't.
For example circles shapes can scale but arrow shapes can't presumably because the outline path changes shape. Masked images can be scaled, sometimes the mask can be scale and not the image with an acceptable scaling/crossfade effect but mostly it just jump cuts.
I'm guess Apple developers are working on it and figured something to improve controlled movement was better than nothing so released Magic Move in its present state. If you can limit it to translations and then do your scaling and rotating with builds before and afterwards then that's a good work around.

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I have a presentation that uses the Magic Move transition between slides. The Magic Move only effects a solid rectangle at the top of the slide which moves to the bottom of the next slide. The Magic Move transition works great except it causes a rescaling of an object on the slide that has been scaled using the scale animation. There are slides where I animate text to move and scale to a larger percentage.
The text animation moves and scales perfectly. When the slide is about to preform the Magic Move transition (advancing to the next slide) the object that was scaled by animation scales back to its original size. Then the presentation advanced to the next slide.
I've reproduced this on two other computers with 'start from scratch' presentations to test. It occurs with any object - text, shape, etc. Can someone else verify that this is a bug or not?
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UPDATE.
Just tested my issue in Keynote version 6.0 and there were no issues. Scaled animated objects and text combined with the Magic Move transition will not result in a the scaled object reverting back to it's original size during the slide transition.
I still would like verification from another user that you can repeat my problem in version 6.2. Although I'm 80% sure this is a bug I have found, until someone else can confirm my issue i'll hold off on that conclusion.

How to: using the Place command in an action and remember the correct source filename...

I have a large set of product, architecture, and other subject-specific photos, that I’m preparing for a new website; all to be placed in various galleries.
For each photo, I want it to have the same background. If I were doing this manually, I would simply “place” the subject photo into the background, and save it – back to the original photo name.
In other words, doing this manually, PRODUCT_001.TIF gets placed into STANDARD_BKGRND.TIF, (thereby automatically correctly sizing and centering it), and then saving the result back to PRODUCT_001.TIF; either overwriting the original, or into a new folder. (I have the original file somewhere else, and am working with an intermediate copy).
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Its great that your products are cutouts layers, Its easy to put cutouts on backgrounds and even add layer style to the product layer to enhance the composite. Still cutouts have size and resolution as do your background images.
When you make composites. A document that is place in or pasted into the current document will be resample to match the current documents DPI resolution to preserve the size of the document being place or pasted in size.
Additionally if your using place if the document being placed in does not fit within the current document's canvas size. Photoshop may scale the image to fit within the canvas. It depends on your user id Photoshop Preference setting.
That means you need you handle the sizes involved.
I would think that you would want the final composite to be the size of the background image.
You need to know its size and dpi resolution. You must use image size on your product image and make the image have the same dpi resolution and a size smaller then the background image. Perhas they have the same dip resolution as the background and are smaller in size. If that the cast their size are good no image resize is required,
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When you then place in the background image it will not be resampled for it has the same dpi resolution as the current document and it will not be scaled for it is an exact canvas size fit. All that remains to be done is move the current placed layer below the product layer
The document name is the product image file name opened by you or by Photoshop automate batch process.

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I've reliably replicated a file copy bug in Windows 8.1. It's rather significant, and needs to be fixed ASAP, but this is the only forum I can find where I can even report it.
Problem: A drag-and-drop (or cut-and-paste) "move" operation where the destination files already exist results in the dropped files being deleted without warning, with the destination files being unchanged.
How to replicate: Take the following steps, which assume that your Desktop is located on your C: drive.
Create a folder on the C: drive. Name it "zzz" to make it easy to find.
Create a folder on the Desktop, then create another "zzz" folder inside of it. Let's name this one "Desktop\Test\zzz" for clarity.
Copy a couple of files from a different drive into both "zzz" folders, so that the contents of both folders are identical. It is best if the files are at least a few days old, so the last-modified date will be obvious.
Change one or two of the files in the Desktop's "zzz" folder. The nature of the change doesn't matter.
Make sure you have two Explorer windows open - one for Desktop\Test and one for C:\ - to facilitate file copying.
Drag the new "zzz" folder from Desktop\Test into C:\.
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on R:\ (an external USB hard drive) just as easily. Similarly, I should point out that performing these steps between two different drives (triggering a copy rather than a move) is handled correctly, although using shift-drag to force a move demonstrates the
same bug.
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Item Not Found
Could not find this item
This is no longer located in (folder name). Verify the item's location and try again.(icon and file information)
However, none of the three options presented will do you any good; by the time you see this alert box, the source folder and its contents have already been deleted.

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behind an open window (but it does always get issued).
I wonder what could now be configured differently between our two setups... I have installed the program Classic Shell, and it does add some capabilities to Explorer. However, I don't recall "correcting the handling of folder copy conflicts"
ever being listed as one of the things it brings to the party.
Sorry that setting alone didn't correct the whole issue for you.
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Hi everyone,
I just bought a new mac mini (the basic model) and attached it via HDMI to a HD TV. I bought the mac wireless keyboard and magic trackpad to go with it. Everything works except that both the keyboard and mouse are consistently slow. Not quite to the point of un-useable, but very noticeable.
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