Activate Profit Center Accounting with Splitter in SPL / New GL
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We are Public Sector and are on ECC 6.0, we have been splitting Document based on Business Area and Fund. Before migrating to New GL functionality, we are also thinking to use the feature of document splitting with characteristic profit center. To do that we are thinking of the two following scenarios, but want to understand the possibility, the benefits and impact on the system
Scenario A. Activating Profit Center Accounting with Splitter in Special Purpose Ledger on the GO-live date and populate Profit Center field in Classical G/L.
Scenario B. Activating Profit Center Accounting with Splitter In New G/L on the GO-live date and populate Profit Center field in New G/L.
Yes, I understand that (ours too). Based on your diagram, migration will be some time after 7/1/2011.
Actually, I think what SAP recommends is complete migration before opening the new FY for posting. In any case, if you want to add a new split characteristic and you are already using SPL, I think it is better to add it to SPL before NewGL migration because SAP handles migration with SPL and without SPL (from classic GL) differently. With SPL is a lot more straight forward.
Regards,
Ming
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