Activating Dummy profit centers.

Hi Gurus,
We have a problem.
Our user has created a PO and while MIGO, system picks up Profit center as Dummy Profit Center and not the PC from Material Master.
Dummy PC is not assigned to any segment and neither activated hence sys throws error that "Segment not assigned in Part I entry"
My question is, can we activate the Dummy PC?? What are the pros and cons for the same??

Hello!
Please check if you have activate the enhancement PPCO0006, and also refer to the following note for more information:
150959 Profit center is incorrect in production order
I hope that this information is of some assistance.
best regards!

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Hi
I have two company codes (1000 & 2000). Now each company code had different profit centers. But i was able to use each others' profit center. (For ex: I was able to post in company code 1000 using profit center related to company code 2000).
Hence i removed the tick in profit center to company code assignment. After removing tick, when i saved it, it saved into inactive status.
So i will have to manually activate all the profit centers. There are around 2200 profit centers. So manual activation of profit center is not possible. Please help.

Hi,
You can try these transactions:
KE55 ---> treatment collective profit centers for master data
KE56 ---> treatment collective profit centers for company code
Regards,
Lyoré

Prevent documets getting posted to DUMMY profit center for

Hi All,
During posting of accounting documents (for eg: In T-code F-02), we need to prevent documents getting posted to dummy profit-centers when I post documents with cost-centers which are un-assigned to any profit center (T-Code KS02). Instead we need to bring in to the profit-center posted by the user. We have PCA activated.
We have tried to achieve with a substitution along with an user-exit (T-code: GGB1). But the user-exit is getting invoked only after the assignment of Dummy profit-center and is overwriting my profit center. Is this approach right? FYI, the substitution is done at the Financial Accounting/ Line-item level.
Kindly enlighten me with your solutions.
Thanks and Regards,
Gnanasambanthan.V

At my company, we have profit center as a required field on the cost center master - so when posting to a cost center, there is always a profit center.
However, if requiring a profit center on the cost center master is not an option in your case, then I'm wondering if it would work to set up a validation to check that the profit center on a posting is not the dummy.
Regards,
Shannon

Prevent Dummy Profit Center Postings

Hi All,
During posting of accounting documents (for eg: In T-code F-02), we need to prevent documents getting posted to dummy profit-centers when I post documents with cost-centers which are un-assigned to any profit center (T-Code KS02). Instead we need to bring in to the profit-center posted by the user. We have PCA activated.
We have tried to achieve with a substitution along with an user-exit (T-code: GGB1). But the user-exit is getting invoked only after the assignment of Dummy profit-center and is overwriting my profit center. Is this approach right? FYI, the substitution is done at the Financial Accounting/ Line-item level.
Kindly enlighten me with your solutions.
Thanks and Regards,
Gnanasambanthan.V

hi,
GOto tcode 3KEH and assign a default profit center wihc can be other than your dummy profit center. the Purpose behind this assignment is the system would not post your documents to the dummy in the first place and secondly while posting a transaction if you happen to select the profit center as B assuming profit A is assigned as the defualt profit center in 3keh against those g/ls , the system would check and post the transaction in the profit center assigned in the transaction and in the absence of the profit center in the transaction system will check if their is a default profit center assigned in 3keh for those g/ls incase if the system detects the default profit center which is other than your dummy then the postings will be made to that profit center. remember you can have only B/S accounts assinged in 3keh.
hope dis helps
regards
sayeed

Dummy Profit Center -- Customer Line item

Hello
I have a scenerrio on dummy profit center
1. On Augst 2006 -- A customer invoice has been posted using FB70 and some how the customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to a the correct profit center.
2. On August 2006 -- Due to this business reversed original customer invoice using FB08 which again has customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to the correct profit center.
Origianl Invoice: Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 ( Customer Reconciliation Account)--- Dummy profit Center -- Dr. 235,000 USD
Reversal : Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 (Customer Reconciliation Account) -- Dummy profit center -- Cr. 235,000 USD
This is want we want and this is want we see in our FI entries and all are with the same posting dates.
Now some how when you look at KE5Z (Profit Center line items report) for dummy profit centers even today.
1. You see the original customer invoice showing dummy profit center on the customer account line item as Dr. 235,000 on GL 130024.
2. You see the reversal customer invoice showing correct profit center on the other line items and you dont see customer account line item that is GL130024 on this document.
3. Because of which dummy profit center is showing Dr.balance.
PCA report:
Origianl Invoice: Customer XYZ Ltd - GL 130024 ( Customer Reconciliation Account)--- Dummy profit Center -- Dr. 235,000 USD
Reversal : Customer XYZ Ltd - No entry except the same document number with the other line items.
Could you please give us the thoughts except the PCA entry only as business dont have to have this entry. Business basically want to know the reason for not showing the customer line item on the reversal document which will knot out the dummy.
Will assign good points
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Kumar

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Multiple Dummy Profit Center

We have one controlling area and multiple company codes. The requirement is to have 1 dummy profit center per company code. Is that possible? The reason being, currently all company codes are trying to post in one dummy profit center and it becomes hard to reconcile that dummy profit center. Is there a way to restrict company codes in dummy profit center or have multiple dummy profit centers?

Hi,
You cannot assign another dummy profit center to controlling area. You can replace the dummy profit center, if the original dummy profit center doesn't have any posting,since that would lead to inconsistencies.
Regards,
Dinabandhu.

Dummy profit center error

Hello All,
I have this issue. there are 2 dummy default profit centers accumulating amounts over several different accounts (profit center 1 and 2). when i looked into the system only one profit center 1 is marked as Dummy profit center. when i run T.code 2kee, it shows the values in accounts at the 2 dummy profit centers. i want the correct profit center and the costs should be assigned to profit center 3.
I looked into into the 3keh, and it seems like the gl account are mapped to the dummy profit center 1.
but when i look at the "assign default profit centers to accounts" the same Gl accounts are mapped to the correct profit center 3...i dont know why its taking profit center 1 rather than profit center 3.
any suggestions?
thanks

You need to get to the root cause. Which tcode is being processed that is going to dummy? For example if it is a material document then the material is not set up with a profit center. Also, make sure that in the GL field status that profit center is required for the GL entries ( except some auto post accounts) . You could do validations to require valid profit centers as well. You can also do a substituion and force in what you want. You can only have one DUMMY profit center in PCA. So I am not sure what you mean by two pcrt 1 and pctr 2. To correct this go to 9KE0 - Enter and make an entry to dr/cr dummy and dr/cr pctr 3.
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Dummy profit center to other profit centers

how to transfer entry dummy profit center to other profit centers please tell me.

Hi,
You could use either assesment (via 3KE5) or distribution (via 4KE5). The functionality of these two operations resembles cost allocation in CO. You could read more on this here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Regards,
Eli

Finding Active Profit Centers

Hey Everyone,
I have question about finding active profit centers. I am able to see if a profit center is active by using transaction KE54 and entering the correct company area and profit center. My requirement is to validate if a profit center is active during runtime.
I am having some trouble narrowing this down in database tables. For orders and materials I can check the object number and find the status associated to it. Is there a table I can check to see if the profit center is active? I would assume the validity dates would be a good indicator, but it may not be active even if the dates are valid. I see there is a locked indicator, is there an active indicator? My searches haven't led to any answer. Is there another table I can use besides CEPC? Does anyone know of another table or method of finding if the profit center is active?
Any help is appreciated, I thank you in advance.
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C

Hi...
try with the below links. i'm not sure it'll solve ur issue. but atleast some what useful to u.
https://websmp201.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000760832007E/CW34_FIN_Profit_Centers.pdf
Webex record
https://websmp201.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000760572007E/CW34_FIN_Profit_Centers.wrf
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Prevent postings to dummy profit center

dear experts
1)The inheritance option that we turn on during the activation of new G/L in ecc6.0, do you know where i can turn on that option in sap4.7.
2)what are the impacts of changing a document splitting rule in sap4.7 like in rule000000001 splitting is done for the documents for customers, vendors, tax and the client wants to change it to 000000012 which is splitting for customer,vendor, tax,money,co.code clearing. what are the areas that are to be tested for this configuration change.
3)i have posted a purchase order and noticed that G/r and I/R went into the correct profit center but the payment went into dummy profit center.
so i have deleted that number range in 3keh rule and then posted an other purchase order even then the payment went into dummy profit center what could be the reason? there are no substitution rule for that document type, i have checked okb9 but this account i snot assigned to any cost centers or profit centers.
how can i know what is causing the g/l account to derive dummy profit center?
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srinivas.

Hi..
Try to assgin that GL Account in 3KEH and give original correct profit center which you want to post exactly instead of Dummy profit center.
Generallly, If you dont specify the Profit center for one GL Account in Derivation Rules, System will automatically posts to Dummy profit center only..
One more option you have is.. even if you post this payment to Dummy profit center, you can very well transfer that Dummy profit center values to Correct profit center..
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Relation Between Dummy Profit Center and Posting Keys.

Hello Gurus,
It will be a valuable feed back for below mentioned Scenario.
One of our client is on SAP Version 4.7 and New GL is not activated. In COCD one Customer Invoice entry is booked as below.
PK     Account           Amount      Profit Center
01     SURXXX1            100.00         ABCD
50     REVENUE A/c      50.00         ABCD
50     ENT TAX               20.00         ABCD
50     SERVICE TAX       30.00         ABCD
After running t codes 1KEK, F.5D, and KE5T for customer line item system picks same profit center as mentioned in other line items i.e ABCD.
But when we reverse the above document system picks DUMMY Profit center instead of ABCD.
PK     Account           Amount      Profit Center
12     SURXXX1            100.00         DUMMY
40     REVENUE A/c      50.00         ABCD
40     ENT TAX               20.00         ABCD
40     SERVICE TAX       30.00         ABCD
Basically we have checked field status variant for Posting Key 01 and 12 in which Profit Center field is Required and field status for profit center for reconciliation account is also required. This is unusual behavior which we are facing right now.
Regards,
Ajinkya Ahire

Profit Center :
A profit center is a management-oriented organizational unit used for internal controlling purposes. Dividing your company up into profit centers allows you to analyze areas of responsibility and to delegate responsibility to decentralized units, thus treating them as "companies within the company". EC-PCA lets you set up your profit centers according to product (product lines, divisions), geographical areas (regions, offices or production sites) or function (production, sales).
Profit Center Accounting (PCA) allows you to calculate internal measurements of profitability. This internal view of profitability, then, reflects the success of a given profit center at meeting the profitability goal for which it was given responsibility.
Cost Center :
The cost center is an organizational unit in a controlling area. Cost centers can be defined according to several different design approaches. A typical approach could be for an enterprise to define a cost center for each low-level organizational unit that has responsibility for managing costs. As costs are incurred, they are assigned or posted to the appropriate cost center. These costs could include payroll costs, rent and utility costs, or any other costs assignable to a given cost center.
Each cost center is assigned to a category, e.g. Administration cost center, production cost center, etc. Each cost center master record has a field for the name of the person responsible for the cost center.
For detailed information go thru the below article
https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPFI/BasicConceptsof+Controlling
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Srinath.

COPA derivation - dummy profit center

Hey All
While creating a sales order the system is deriving the dummy profit center for materials assigned to only couple of Profit centers. The material master has right profit center with active status and correct validity dates. I checked the derivation rule in ke4st where a function call line is yellow. this line is realted to checking if profit center accounting is active. Can anyone suggest me why is this happening with only for two of these profit centers

SAP provided multiple derivation rules for profit center, the first one is to 'Check whether Profit Center Accounting is active' and if so DUMMY profit center is filled. You should also see follwoing derivation rules to check profit center.
Table lookup            Profit center from product/plant
Table lookup            Profit center from CO order number
Table lookup            Profit center from WBS element
Please check the derivation rule 'Profit center from product/plant' and check the Target fields section and see if derivation failed.
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Ganesh

Use of dummy profit center

Hi
I am on ECC6.0 and profit center accounting is active. I have one dummy center.
Now what is the use of dummy profit center. It i because SAP will not allow me to post FI transaction with out profit center because of document splitting. Then how dummy profit center will be used

Hi,
The profit center accounting is based on the derivation rules. Derivation rules are nothing but how and to which profit center the postings are to be done.
If the derivation rules are not there, then the incomes and expenses would be posted to this dummy profit center.
At the end of the month if this dummy profit center has balances, it means that the derivation is missing and hence these balances from the dummy cost center will be assigned to the correct profit center manually.
Dummy profit center acts as a cross check to see the accuracy of the postings in to the various profit centers depending on the derivations.
Thank you,
Shilpa.

Dummy profit center posting

We have postings coming up in dummy profit center each month,and we need to remove it, one fix could be to reverse those entries and repost it with assignment of a profit center, but I heard there is some tool available where you can just transfer the balance in one profit center to another, Is it available in Ecc6.0 also , I guess its for classic profit center accounting. Can you suggest me something pelase.how to remove those entries into another without reversing the entries in dummy.We are on ECC6.0 Thanks
Regards
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Please refer to the FAQ note 1070629.This says.
63. How can I deactivate classic Profit Center Accounting (EC-PCA) after activating the new general ledger?
Note 702854 explains how to deactivate classic Profit Center Accounting.
If you use document splitting for profit centers in ERP2004, delete the dummy profit center from the table TKA01 also. For this purpose, Note 702854 provides the program Z30PCA23. Use the program Z30PCA23 to delete the dummy profit center of classic Profit Center Accounting in the controlling area.
I am not sure if you would continue to need a dummy PC after migrating to ECC6, with classic PCA accounting de-activated.

No postings on profit centers or cost centers or both

Hi!
I will assin points for every reasonable answer!
This is the problem.
We are on ECC6.0 - new GL is NOT activated!
We have tons of cost center and profit center problems - sometimes there are no postings on profit center, sometimes there are no postings on cost centers, but it goes to Dummy profit center. sometimes there are no posting on profit AND cost center....it is not even going to dummy.
Where do i start fixing it?
I know there can be multiple problems, but please help me to start looking.....What are the steps of fixing it?
Any ideas?

There are all types of issues:
-Sometimes JE are not having profit center assigned to revenue accounts (and it wouldn't go to dummy)
-Every time production order settlement will go to dummy for the part of the cost that comes from the Purchase order ( the rest of the cost would go to the profit center assigned in the production order master data)
-Customer deposits wtire offs (that i think is the user error too)
-Material Scrap transactions
So, most of the errors require user training. But, whatever is in the system need to be fixed, right?
What are the reports i can execute to see all the differences?
What is the best way to monitor it from happening?

Activating Dummy profit centers.

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