Active N/Bridge cooler with k8n plat w/9800+vga silancer

I need an active cooler for my north bridge before I oc anymore. Thinking i might just go get a copper van iceberg is says the hight is 14mm so it should be allright.
But my vga silencer is in the way, will i be able to fit an active cooler on there and keep my vga? Is anyone running this combination?

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Originally posted by ninjastyle
You think the NB fan on this would fit? If we could get these as replacement parts we might be onto something. Just a thought.
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/newsrelease/product_news/2004_0617_K8NNeo2-Platinum.htm
yup, it'd have to fit. NB heatsinks are generally universal.
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Originally posted by moinerus
yeh that the one i was thinking about can u measure it 4 me(distance from mb base to top of cooler) thanks.
sure thing I'll actually give you the accurate measurements from the box: 51.2 x 59 x 14.2 mm. So the thickness is 14.2mm.

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First of all I like MSI boards this is not an anti marketing thread. I own one and with a FIX I don't regret buying it.
I will go straight to the point, the cooling of chipsets on the MSI Eclipse/PRO is totally disastrous. Here is the proof :
Since we see this problem all around, and never "good" response from tech support, here it is - in color. You can't deny it.
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Nothing is perfect, if it was MSI would send me a free tube of MX2
MSI Eclipse SLI FIX - will work for other models certainly
Needed :
Thermal Paste - Arctic Cooling MX2 (Non conductive, long run, one of the best)
Optional :
Heatsink - Thermalright HR-05 / IFX
Tighter bolts, plastic screws.
How to:
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If you don't have tighter bolts or screws, you can use existing and add some rings on it to heighten the pressure that will need the heatsink. Warning : If you use metal screws be sure to use a spring or it may do serious damage to the chip.
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How to (with heatsink replacement) :
Your IOH will go down 40°C. Yes you've read right.
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Here are picture of the final board, and with a mounted system :
(Clic on pics if you need high resolution picture)
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Idle/Load : IOH : 45°C / 50°C
Idle/Load : System : 35°C / 39°C
Idle/Load : CPU avg : 38°C / 67°C
Now this board is a jewel - impressive low power consumption, very high overclocking capability, stability.
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I hope this thread has cleared some questions and helped.

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real 10.36.3.102 80
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Hello F.Makarenko-
You will want to use PAT while you do nat, so change the natpool configuration to this:
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This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
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Quote from: Arioch on 27-September-05, 01:54:12
The "distortion" as you describe it is static interference that goes through to the amplifier, due to the fact that you do not have a correct connection. If the connector does not fit, do not try to force it.
I would leave the case connectors unconnected for the moment, until you get sound through the spdif out. What type of connector is it to your speakers?
you are correct sir! i did some more research with different keywords after i posted my last post and realized that i needed a 1/8" stereo to RCA converter, so i hopped over to radio shack and purchased the little connector for 4 bucks and plugeed it in and walla. Thanks for the help though.
also to the guy with the link to the front case connections, thanks for the suggestion, i had all of my audio ports connected so that wasnt an issue, but thanks for pointing that out.

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