Activity price

Hi
What is the reason that a production activity can only post costs into a secondary cost element instead of a normal account?
milk

Hi,
Secondary CEs are used exclusively in CO it analyse internal cost such as cost assessment/distribution and settlements.
Assume, you spent $100 on Electricity charges which is used for machinery (production related) and administrative purpose. The same is posted through FI with a cost object i.e. ABC cost center. (Here, $100 will be updated CC ABC debit side)
The main intentions of CO component is to analyse the cost and provide a feasible price structure to management for decision making.
In the above example, client wants to know: "what portion of electricity charges consumed by production machinery"? Here, we are analyzing the production related machinery electricity charges out of $100 booked from FI postings.
Assume, Machine is an activity in CO area and you have spent $60 (assume) on machinery cost. This part is stored in the CC in the credit side with a secondary cost element as it is related to purely CO area. Means, out of $100 you have spent $60 on machinery elect. charges.
The overall cost is $100 and the purpose of creating secondary cost element to analyse specific internal cost i.e. machinery electricity ($60) cost.
Hope you understood the difference.
Br, Srinivas Salpala

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Error while updating the Actual Activity Prices

Dear All,
While calculating the Actual activity prices under test run (KSII) ,the system is calculating the prices correctly, but when I run the KSII after deselecting the test run ,the system is giving the following error message:
Cost center EE04301000 activity type RWKHRS: costs exist although activity 0
Message no. KP250
Diagnosis
The plan or actual activity for cost center EE04301000, activity type RWKHRS is 0. However, costs were planned or posted in period(s) 1.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices for this activity type as this would involve division by zero. The plan or actual costs are ignored in activity price calculation.
Procedure
Check activity price calculation in planning for activity type RWKHRS in cost center EE04301000 and the costs planned for period(s) 1.
Activity Type Planning
Primary Cost Planning
For activity price calculation in actual, actual costs are allocated onto the activity type through splitting, although no activity posting was made on this activity type.
The scenario is that we have 4 activity types and planned costs/activity qty for all the 4 activities and calculated plan prices and posted actual costs for all the four types. Production Order created and confirmed only 3 activities out of 4 activities. And when we calculate the Actual prices for all 4 activities the system is giving the above said message.
Please suggest as how to solve this issue.
Regards
Subbu

Hi Subbu
The error is very much justified.. If your actual qty for any act type is zero, then division by zero would yield an error during activity price calculatoin
You need to ignore this error, if the zero qty for 4th act type is justified.. System would post act price for remaining 3 act types...
Regards
Ajay M

Activity price not getting updated at Production order

Hi All,
I have made activity dependent planning at cost centre and calculated the activity rate. The activity rate is showing correctly for the cost centre in KP26, but while confirming the production order (CO11N) the the activity price is not getting updated in production order. But material price is getting properly updated at production order.
Plz help me in identifying the possible areas of mistakes.
Regards,
BKD

Hi,
Please check the Period for which you have created the ht activity price is same as the period in the conformation. In the workcenter in which you are confirming please check whether the activities are assigned to the work center.
Bye,
Ramesh

At the time of actual activity price calculatoin with diffenrent currency

Dear Friends,
I am facing some problems. Followings are the information/Problems:
Controlling Area Currency - USD
Company Code currency - INR
Exchange rate - M type - 46.90
Exchange rate - P type 46.90
This problem is due to problem-1. At the time of actual activity price calculatoin, I am geeting huge price because system has multiplied (problem-1) and now system is taking posted amount in usd to calcualte actual activity price and according to my observation after calcualtion in usd system is converting price into INR
Questions - 1. What is the logic of calculation of actual activity price.
2. As I feel after analyses that sytems is taking posted cost in controlling area currecy and then calculating price and then converting into INR,
Is my theory correct in term of SAP standard functionality. is there any method by when system take only posted figure in inr for activity price calcualtion.
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thanks

1. If you are using common controlling area with two different participating company code currency, then you have to use group controlling currency and integrate the other company code currency with parallel currency defined in the FI ledger. Hope this is design principle based on which you have selected group currency.
2. In case group currency controlling then non-participating currency should calculate the activity rates in group currency. Meaning you have define the activity rates at EUR currency and remember this has to accepted globally.
This is key drawback where you cannot define activity rates in INR, whereas there is no option activity type creation to give object currency as INR.
Hope this clarifies.

Activity prices are not matching compare to previous year

Dear Sap Guru's,
Activity prices are not matching for the year 09 compare to 08.But standard cost estimation is correct.how it is possible.can you guide me how system calculates activity prices.
Ex: My client having business in egypt.Last year they started thier business at this time activity prices are maintained for INDO OH :13.81, Labur 0.44 per Min plan price 1.It is common for whole year -08.
Now I copied the same activity prices for this year through kp97 by selecting object currency for both plan and cost.under planning currency tab.
Activity prices are showing for IND oh is 17.14 ; instead of 13.81 and labour it is showing 0.55 instead of 0.44.
Pls guide me.
Regards
KUMAR.

Hi,
guess you are using a controlling area currency (A) thats different from company code currency (B).
First check if the prerequisites within KP97 / button "planning currencies" are met when ticking "object currency" and using the F1-help especially the point
"It only makes sense to activate this indicator if you have activated all
currencies
1. when copying: in the source and target versions".
Whatever the reason is, your KP97 copy did the following thing:
For each CO area and plan version there are settings for each fiscal year to be made (IMG: Controlling / General Controlling / Organization / maintain versions, mark the relevant version choose "Controlling area settings", mark it again and choose "settings for ecah fiscal year".
Compare your 2 fiscal years, which exchange rate type (can be different, normally its "P") and value date (its often the first day of the new FY) is used?
If you have a difference in minimum one of the mentioned settings in CO version you might have different act. prices in comp. code currency.
Your KP97 process copied the values in controlling area currency (A) and converted this numbers to comp. code currency (B) based on your CO-version settings.
Best regards, Christian

Actual activity price does not exist for cost center / activity type

Hi,
We are trying to upload the time sheet related data(number of hours an employee workred on a project) ect from Non SAP to SAP.
We have used a customized program and have loaded the data from se38.
All this HR data will be saved in CAT2
Later we transfer the time related data into SAP FI/CO using CAT7.
+When tested with a couple of employees time sheets, they got uploaded in SE38 proerly and when transfered it through CAT7 it was properly taking the hour*rate is cost and was reflecting in the respective cost element.
For a few time sheets in SE38 we were getting an error saying that the cost center(100501)/ activity type(EAT001) does not exist for 2010.
Hence we have taken, FY 2010, the cost centes and activity types in KP26 and have given the planned Activity as 1. No planned cost in KP06.
We have run the price calculation forr the FY 2010.
Then we were able to uplaod the time sheets, but when we tried to transfer the data through CAT7, it throws an error saying no activity price exist for cost center 100501/ activity type EAT001. If I ignore the warning an proceed, no amount is being calculated.
When uploaded employee time sheets before, all the cost were getting claculated and were entering into the respective cost elements, but now no amounts are being calculated and it is taking Zero.
When checked the previous years data i.e, 2009 all amounts are fine, in KSII I can see the activity quantity filled with some numbers in 2009, where from are they comming? I have checked KBk6 nothing was mentioned.
PLease assit
Regards,
shilpa

Hi
I never used CAT* though, but the error means that you need to maintain a activity price in KBK6 (Actual price)
Regards
Ajay M

Planned Price (Production order) /Activity price

Hello friends
When i m creating Production order(sta- 81 Planned order to Production order) Planned price is not showing after saving / release of order also activity price is not showing.
Check the OPL8 setting , For activity Price is mentioned in KP26 , Costing -CK24, CK11N is done ,
Pour light on missing setting
Thanks ,
girish

Arshawin,
Yes the costing tick is there

KSII activity prices not calculation (actual)

Hi
During Actual Price calculation KSII following is error message :
All activity prices are manually entered
Message no. KP211
Diagnosis
All activity prices in controlling area HGC, fiscal year 2011, and version 0 were determined and set as manually entered prices.
In actual price calculation, all plan activity prices, meaning those calculated automatically (activity price indicator 1 and 2) and those set manually (activity price indicator 3), are treated as if they have been set manually.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices automatically.
Processing is cancelled.
Procedure
Check your activity type planning. To calculate the activity price automatically, you must set the activity price indicator accordingly.
Regards
Imdad

Hi Imdad
Go to KL02 and set your Actual Price Indicator so that it allows to calculate Actual Price through system
There are 2 such fields - Plan Price Indicator and Actual Price Indicator... I think you have presently chosen MANUAL price indicator
Regards
Ajay M

Activity prices in KP26 used for actual and plan in version 0

We plan activity prices via KP26 in version 0. We then plan activity consumption via KP06, and run the plan reconciliation via KPSI.
During the year, we need to update the activity prices used in actual activity allocation. This price also comes from version 0.
When we change the activity price, the planned amounts change also. We are looking for a way to maintain a separate price for actual activity allocation.

Ajay,
Your answer definitely sent me down the right path...thank you!
For other's benefit, these are the steps I took to make this work:
1) set the "Purely Iter. Price" indicator in plan version 0
2) import planning layout 1-N01 from client 000 (OBKF)
3) add planning area "Cctr: Manual actual prices" to planning layout SAPALL (KP34)
4) add planning layout 1-N01 to planner profile SAPALL (KP34)
5) create and run custom program from note 551309 to add cost element field to the input screen in KBK6 (SE38)
6) transport planning layout for planning area "Cctr: Manual actual prices" (OKEX)
Now we can plan a price in KP26, and maintain a different price in KBK6 which is used in the actual activity allocation.
Thanks again,
Linda

Activity prices maintained manually..Is KSII/MFN1 possible?

Hi Experts,
We have this scenario:
1. Activity prices are entered manually in KP26.
2. All Costs are maintained as Activity independent costs.
3. For Production Cost centers, some costs (primary costs) are Activity relevant and others not relevant at all for Activity.
4. No Splitting structure maintained so far.
Now, we are considering calculating Actual Activity prices through KSII and then MFN1 for revaluating Process orders.
I tried KSII in our test system, where I got the following error message # KP211. I even tried by maintaining the Actual Activity type category '01' and Actual price indicator '05' in AT master, but no luck.
Short Text
All activity prices are manually entered
Diagnosis
All activity prices in controlling area , fiscal year , and version were determined and set as manually entered prices.
In actual price calculation, all plan activity prices, meaning those calculated automatically (activity price indicator 1 and 2) and those set manually (activity price indicator 3), are treated as if they have been set manually.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices automatically.
Processing is cancelled.
Procedure
Check your activity type planning. To calculate the activity price automatically, you must set the activity price indicator accordingly.
Proceed
Questions:
1.Given our case, is it possible to do KSII/MFN1? If yes, what configuration and master setup is required?
2. What accounting/CO entry posted MFN1. Especially, want to know if value also posted to CO-PA?
Thanks much for your time.
SC

Hi SC, 
 
sorry for my delay. 
 
Yes, you can process KSII even if you maintained planned activity prices manually. For this, the Activity type master should be activity price indicator "5" for Actual, hoever it's defalt value for planning (KP26). 
Could you check activity planning value in your period as follows; 
 
1. Go to transaction KP26 
2. Selection screen; 
 Set your version and year/period and also cost center/activity types in problem. 
 Push Next Layout button (Ctrl + F8) and set layout 1-204 (named "Control indicators"). 
3. Push "Overview screen" (F5) 
 
You can see plan price indicator and also ACTUAL price indicator, so you have to check if actual price indicator is not "7" or "Blank". If not, please set it with value "5" or "6". 
Hope you can understand what I wrote above, but if you have any queries, please feel free to ask me. 
 
Additonaly about your question regarding "activity independent" cost planning 
In F1 help document for field "Equivalence Numbers", there're useful description how activity-independent costs allocates activity type and activity prices calculates. If you do not use cost split or activity-depend planning, you can process activity price calculation by "Equivalence Numbers". it's easy-way to allocate cost to each activity type. you can see this field also in KP26 with layout 1-201 (sample) 
the following passage from field "Equivalence Numbers" F1 document. 
 
- Equivalence Numbers 
Weighting factor for distribution of activity-independent plan costs of a cost center onto the available activity types. 
- Use 
This field group serves to weight the activity types created in a cost center. After weighting, the activity-independent plan costs of a cost center are distributed onto the available activity types. 
-Procedure 
If you want to change or create equivalence numbers in planning, this field must be defined in the planning layout. If this field is not defined, any existing equivalence numbers will be displayed, but they cannot be changed. 
Examples 
You have planned the following activity types for cost center 4420: 
Activ. type Plan quantity Equiv. nr. 
 
FST 400 hrs 3 
REP 50 hrs 1 
RST 20 hrs 1 
 
 Total: 5 
This cost center has planned activity-independent costs worth $20,000 . These costs are distributed according to activity price calculation onto the iteratively calculated activity prices (cost rates) of the activity types: 
ATyp Fixed costs Fixed portion of activ. price 
 
FST 20,000 X 3/5 = 12,000 $12,000 / 400 hrs = 30 $/hr 
REP 20,000 X 1/5 = 4,000 $4,000 / 50 hrs = 80 $/hr 
RST 20,000 X 1/5 = 4,000 $4,000 / 20 hrs = 200 $/hr 
Edited by: Takashi Kotani on Feb 9, 2010 7:55 PM

All activity prices are manually entered (Message no. KP211 )

Dear All,
I have maintained Activity Rates through KP26. On Activity Master I have set Act. price indicator = 5.
Now when i am executing KSII it is giving me error message as :
All activity prices are manually entered
Message no. KP211
Diagnosis
All activity prices in controlling area FLGP, fiscal year 2011, and version 0 were determined and set as manually entered prices.
In actual price calculation, all plan activity prices, meaning those calculated automatically (activity price indicator 1 and 2) and those set manually (activity price indicator 3), are treated as if they have been set manually.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices automatically.
Processing is cancelled.
Procedure
Check your activity type planning. To calculate the activity price automatically, you must set the activity price indicator accordingly.
Proceed
Please let me know if I need to done any additional settings.
Br, Vivek Srivastava

Hi Vivek,
"The error message KP211 is display by the system due
to the SAP System cannot calculate activity prices automatically.
(can you review the settings in the system).
The procedure that you have to follow is to review transaction code
KP26 and your activity types.
From viewpoint of actual price iteration all plan prices are political
in the sense that 'prices does not change during actual price
iteration'. If all activity types have indicator 1 then everything
will be evaluated with plan price in actual. So actual price iteration
has nothing to compute because no price will be changed. You have to
set price indicator to 5 or 6 in actual price indicator for at least
one activity type in order to calculate the actual activity price.
When you change some activity type master data in transaction KL02,
these changes take effect in all relevant tables, BUT please notice
that the values of TARKZ, TARKZ_I etc. are only DEFAULT values for
activity planning and therefore ONLY READ ONCE when the relevant
planning set is created. Subsequent changes to the master data (default
value) take not effect in the planning sets. You have to change the
values in every single planning set manually."
You indicates that for the activity types you have set in the master data
actual price indicator to 5 (Actual price, automatically based on
on activity). But this is only a default value and can be overwritten
for example during planning.
Please see table COKL for cost center / activity type if have an empty field for
the actual price indicator. Thus the system only finds the plan price
indicators during price calculation and message KP 211 is justified if
you consider the following part of the long text:
In actual price calculation, all plan activity prices, meaning those
calculated automatically (activity price indicator 1 and 2) and
those set manually (activity price indicator 3), are treated as if they
have been set manually.
In order to run KSII as expected by you, you have to execute trans.
KP26 for the cost center and activity type using layout 1-204
(Activity Types: Indicators).
Here you can set the actual price indicator to 5.
Afterwards there should be no further problem with KSII.
I hope helps,
Regards,
MLM

How to calculate actual activity price using cost center balance

I have a problem,the case is that: i have two pro.order. orderA settlement to cost center M; orderB is a standard pro.ord,and the work center of orderB link to cost center M. when i calculate the actual activity revaluation.the activity price update the PRO.ordA and B,and the cost center is zero.
when i settlement the order A,the cost center M is not balance,so i must calculate the actual activity revaluation again.
now,i want to calculate the actual activity revaluation from the cost center's balance,not the Dredit balance.so how can i calculate the actual activity revaluation

did you also assigned the cost centre to splitting structure?
what is not working? the cost are equally distributed on both activities?

Planning activity price in various currency

Hi,
I have controlling area with currency EUR and two company code linked to it:
Company code A with currency EUR
Company code B with currency MXN
Is there any way to plan activity price in USD?
Thanks in advance
Regards

Hi ,
THere are 3 currencies which are available in CO. One is the CO Area currency ( the currency maintained in the CO Area ) , Second is the Object currency ( the currency maintained in the Object , if it is a Cost Center , then the Object currency will be the Company code currency to which the CC belongs to ) and Third is the Transaction currency ( the currency in which a transaction is posted , be it Plan transaction or Actual transactions ) .
You can enter cost element planning using any of those currencies ( by creating user defined layouts if std layouts do not suffice requirements ).
Activity output has to be planned in terms of quantities in Cost Centers.
Activity price is to be computed automatically in the system ( recommended ) . Activity prices are always maintained in only two currencies , Object currency and Co Area currency. All activity transactions will happen using the Object currency so that the absorption on Cost Centers is always proper.
We cannot have activity prices maintained in transaction currencies. Is there a real justification and a business reason to have the price to be maintained in USD ? Please let me know.
Regards,
Venkat.

CK11n with activity prices from different plan versions

Hello,
We are looking for a simple & practical way to calculate a standard cost estimate for a material using activity prices from different CO plan version.
In the valuation variant of the costing variant the CO plan version is determined from where the activity prices are taken, eg version 0
So, we want to cost the same material using the activity prices of a different plan version, eg 90, or 91 ... but without using a different costing variant per CO plan version(so without having to create/customize a separate costing variant per CO plan version)
Is this possible?
Can we use costing versions in this respect?
Many thanks
Alain

Hi,
Thanks for quick feedback ... but how do you assign this valuation variant in the costing version... ?
Can you enter is in CK11n? or what transaction needs to be customized?
Thanks, Alain

Fiscal year independent Activity price determination

Hi,
I have a question regarding the activity prices in Controlling.
We have a activity price plan(KP26 transaction) which is same every year. We do not want to copy this price every year . Is there a way to get this price for any year. Currently system gets the error KL023 'no control record for activity type controlling area/ cost center/ activity type in version 0000/ fiscal year activity planning /quantity planning.
Configuration also does not allow to eliminate/control KL type messages.
We have the activity type defined as follows.
1. Activity category as 1. manual entry manual allocation
2. Price category as 3. Determined manually
Best regards
Deepak

Hi,
Activity price in kp26 is used to valuate the production orders activity confirmation.
Plan Price in KP26 should be updated every month as per standard business practice.
If your business scenario does not necessiate the same than its fine.
Changing the same in the middle of the year is no such problem depending upon business scenario.
Regards,
Divraj

Actual activity price calculation for production order

Hi
Can any one guide me in how many ways we can assign actual activity price calculation for production order?
I knew only one way by assigning PPP2 costing variant?
I have another doubt is: if we don't mention any material valuation indicator (moving average, standard) in valuation variant, how system will calculate material prices? is there any other way, to recognize the prices by system?
regards,
Ramesh B

Dear,
Costing variant PPP2 is linked to some valuation variant inn OPL1
System will check the valuation of material and activity according to this valuation variant
For material valuation there are many stg acceding to which system will take the price the raw material,
Valuation strategy for material component
Strategy sequence that determines the valuation of the materials used in the cost estimate.
Use
The materials are valuated using the price in the material master record or the values calculated in a material cost estimate.
Procedure
You can enter a single strategy, or you can enter multiple strategies in the form of a strategy sequence. If you enter multiple strategies, the priority of the strategy determines what price or what values are selected.
Examples
Assume that the following strategy sequence is entered for material valuation:
1. Planned price 1
2. Standard price
3. Moving average price
If the system finds a value in the Planned price 1 field (costing view), this value is taken as the value for valuating the material.
If the system does not find a value, the value in the Standard price field (accounting view) is used.
If the material does not have a standard price, the system uses the value from the Moving average price field.
if you have not mentioned, then system will give error that "valuation stg not found"
Valuation strategy for internal activities and processes-
Strategy sequence that determines how internal activities and processes are valuated in costing.
Use
The activities and business processes used are valuated with the prices from Cost Center Accounting or Activity-Based Costing to determine the production costs or process costs. The prices can either be calculated iteratively through price calculation, or entered manually by the user.
Procedure
You can enter either a single strategy or more than one strategy in the form of a strategy sequence. If you enter more than one strategy, the priority of the strategy determines which price is selected.
Examples
The following strategy sequence is entered:
1. Actual price of the previous period
2. Plan price of the previous period
3. The most current plan price
If the system finds a price for the activity type, this price is used for valuating the internal activities. If no price was calculated for the previous period, the plan price from the previous period is used to valuate the activity type.
If the system cannot find a plan price for the previous period, it looks for a future plan price, using the next price in the posting period to valuate the internal activities. For example, if plan prices have been entered for periods 2 and 3, and a plan price is calculated in period 1 for period 4, the system uses the price from period 3 in accordance with the valuation strategy Most up-to-date plan price.
Again if you have not mentioned, then system will give error that "valuation stg not found".
You can use any costing variant for actual (PPP2)and planned(PPP1) according to your requirement.. check in OPL1

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