Actual cost of product in COPA

Dear all,
I am relatively new to COPA functionality.
The requirement is that actual cost of product should be reflected in COPA and not the planned.
Kindly give me the background also, as in the integration of COPC and COPA.
Thanks in advance

Hi,
Sudhakar is completely right in his comments. But, I would not just accept that actual costing is not active, so you have to find a solution without it. Your requirement is a good reason to activate actal costing, and calls for it.
The way SAP foresees to bring actual costs into CO-PA would be:
Activate material ledger / actual costing
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a5/320e28d56c11d295c200a0c930328a/frameset.htm]
Calculate periodical actual prodcut costs at period end
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/ec/f835d7f08311d185810000e8a4bacc/frameset.htm]
Revalue CO-PA at actual costs with KE27
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/f5/0f0739edfcb03ae10000000a11402f/frameset.htm]
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7a/4c39be4a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]
That brings you a completely integrated and accurate solution for actual product costs in CO-PA
best regards,
Udo

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1) Is it possible to see the actual cost of material( Including activity cost) in copa.
2) If it is possible please advise.

Hello
It is not possible to get the actual cost of the material in COPA. Actual cost can only be derived if you implement material ledger.
However in COPA we may come close to actual cost to some extent. The following configuration needs to be done:
1. Run standard cost estimate every month so that the price reflects the most recent material prices.
2. Define assessment cycles for auxiliary cost centers (whose cost should form part of inventory cost) to production cost centers.
3. Configure for splitting and revaluation at actual price.
4. Take the production variances to COPA.
5. Create a report to show the standard cost and variances.
One of the difference is that the total standard cost is for the quantities sold during the period however the variances will be for the quantities produced during the period.
Another difference is that the unabsorbed overheads could not be allocated to individual materials.
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Do we have any standard function module for calculating planned and actual cost for production order?
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Dear all,
My client is doing in-house production of moulds (internal order suggestion is not accepted by the client) for which
they have the following
1. BOM
2. Machine hour
3. labour
4. overhead etc
5.plan value
6. actual value
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Hi,
Although i am not CO expert , please check with your FICO consultant who are expert before make the final call.
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Based on what i know .
you can stipulate that settlement may be made to cost centers and orders, but not to fixed assets.
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In the settlement structure you combine the primary and secondary cost elements into groups, in which debits are then posted to the sender objects. For each group, you specify whether (for settlement to a given receiver type) settlement is performed
by cost element or using a settlement cost element.
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Table of Actual cost of production

Hi Experts,
I m developing one Z report for our client which shud contain Standard cost & Actual cost of production of the sold material for that particular month.
I am following KKBC_PKO tcode for the same.
Standard cost & Actual cost has a part of secondary cost element.
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Dear Madhu,
Table COEP will help you to check the actual cost.
Check and revert back.
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Actual Cost of Product with Price control "S"

Dear Gurus,
Is there any report available where we can know the Actual Costs of Materials with Price Control "S".
In the material master field the actual cost in the "Moving Price Tab" of the material with Price Control "S" is available, but is there any report available for plant level?
Thanks & Regards,
Amit Dhanurdhari.

Hi Amit,
-- Under Standard Costing, you value your inventory at Standard Costs and any variances in Production Process will be settled to Price Difference Account. You will not be able to find out actual cost per unit. In Multi-level BOM scenario under Standard Costing (CO-PC), variances don't get rolled-up to the next level, only costs get rolled-up.
-- Under Actual Costing - Material Ledger, You will be able to find out the Actual Cost per Unit. Variances get rolled-up to the next level.
To explain difference between Standard Costing in CO-PC and Material Ledger briefly....
You have given Price Indicator as "S" in the material master of "X" material (semi finisher or finished) and you are doing Standard Cost Estimate for arriving at Standard Cost per tonne. Let's say, the Standard Cost per tonne is Rs.1000/-
Now, when you created production order for 10 tonnes and received output of 10 tonnes (GR). But the total cost incurred on that production order is Rs.1100/-. In this situation, actual cost per tonne is Rs.110.
But, because you are following Standard Costing, When you post GR against this Production Order, inventory will be posted at Standard cost only, i.e., Rs.1000/-. and the balance of Rs.100 will be posted to Price Difference Account. (and parallally the variance of Rs.100/-) will flow to COPA.
So, it is clear that, though, at Production Order level you can see the actual cost, at "material" level, you will not be able to see the actual cost per tonne.(as long as you are using only Product Costing and Standard Costing)
Alternatively, if you maintain Price Indicator as "V", you will able to get the Actual Cost per tonne at material level, but there will be no scope for establishing standard cost and comparison with actual thereof.
But, the same is possible if you are using Material Ledger (CO-ML). If Material Ledger is active, you will be maintaining "S" in the material master, still, the variances will be settled inventory and you will be able to get the actual cost per tonne. (bothe Standard cost estimate, actual cost per tonne will be possible).
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Price differenc value in Actual cost of Production

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We are creating a production order for Billets that is our Semifinished goods. The material master is maintained at Std price.
Lets say that Std prce of the Billet is 100.
Lets say that after the production order is completed , the actual cost of Billet is comes out to be 125.
Now this billet is used for the production of the finished goods Wires. For the production order of wires, the price of the billet is taken as 100.
In this way the actual cost of the Wire will not come.
May be this is the standrad process. Let me know in any way can we use price difference of 125-100= 25 in the production cost of wires so that I can get the actual cost of the wire.
We are not using Material Ledger.
Any suggestion
regards

Thanks Ajay,
Even using ML we cannot get the actual price before the end of the period. And at the month end only we can valuate the inventory withe actual cost. I hope I am right till now.
Pl correct if I am wrong.
But in this case some wires rods are already out from the inventory for the sale that was valuated with the Std Price of the Billet.
Hence these invenories will not be available at the month end for the revaluation.
Pl. correct If my thought is OK.
ML can only be used where ther is lots of Raw Matl price variation..Hence I think I should go with the std price valuation itself.
regards
Kamlesh

Actual cost of production order in inventory valuation

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Kindly tell me in our client requirement to "capture actual cost of drum manufactured. This cost will go to finished mixer. So actual goods receipt of drum should be with actual production order cost . Also actual mixer cost should be taken from actual production order cost. How to map this s cenarionin in SAP" ?
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Hi Shyam,
In SAP product costing we use generally standard cost estimation. Raw material ara taken as moving averagae price as v and finished products are taken as standard price i.e, S. Before cost estimation we update plan price in material master costing view 2 for accurate cost estimation. In case of standard cost estimation price variance is occured which is post to separate gl account. Our client wants actual cost rather than standard cost. Without implementing material ledger is it possible to do actual costing in SAP. Please let me know the process of actual costing...
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No actual cost in production order

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We just create a new plant in our SAP system, and create a new production in this plant, but there are no actual cost occured after confirmation although there are plan cost in cost analysi, I check the following areas:
1, cost center, we maintained the price for activity types in KP26
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4, routing in the production order
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When I use COFC, found the error that said no actitivy type price maintained, but we don't use this activity type for this production order's work center(cost tab).
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Actual Costs for Production Order

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I have a scenerio where they dont want any product costing methods say WIP,Variance calculation & Settlement.
When the Goods receipt is done for production order the actual costs and the Activity costs to be valuated.
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Jayshankar.A

Hi,
In our case the Standard price is updated in the material master. For this, you need to create a costing estimate using T-Code CK11N and update & release in CK24.
When CK11N is executed the standard price is calculated for the material by taking Moving Avg Price of RM (Price indicator V) and the activity costs are calculated as per data given in KP26. These cost components are added and a final cost estimate is prepared, which is updated using T Code CK24.
the pre-requisites are:
1. BOM should be maintained.
2. Routing should be made.
For executing the same procedure for all the materials, you can use T Code CK40N.
Hope this is what you were looking for.
Revert for further details.
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Actual Costing in Production Order

Dear All,
We are in Production Client.I have created cost estimate and moved to material master.
PP has created a production Order and confirmed the activities.
When I view the costs from CO03,i can see the target costs perfectly,but actual costs are not apprearing in the order.
We have 6 activity types and out of 6 ,we have costs for 5 activities and for the remaining 1 activity ,plan qty is maintained ,but there is no plan cost.Is because of this ,actaul costs are not coming in to order? Or any thing is missed out ?
Please share any idea on this issue as we are in production.
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Su

Dear Mr Ajay,
Sorry for the information given in the previous one as I have given wrong Order No.while checking.
I have checked once again with the correct order.When I checked COFC ,System has given the error messages for the Setup activity type for which price is not available in the system as no costs are planned for the activity type as we don't have setup hours for this month,but qty is planned and PP has confirmed the set up qty.
Is because of this issue ,actual costs did not appear in the order?
To my knowledge ,as I said we have 6 activity types,out of which there is no cost for setup,hence system is throwing a error for no price for that activity.
But the system can capture the actaul costs for the remaing 5 activities for which prices are available.
Regards
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Actual cost in production order

Dear Guru's,
Please note the following scenario: For a production order of 100 pcs if I wastes/scraps 15 pcs in opeartion then how to capture only the cost of 85 pcs in production order? Please suggest the settings.
Regards,
SAP CONS

Y U want cost for Only 85. It should be for 100
For Ex
f0r opern 10
Lets take Cost incurred for operation 10 for 100 qtys is 1000 rs
In Operation 20
If the cost incurred for 100 is 500, Consider 15 qty as waste
In operation 30 cost incurred for 30 for qty 85 is 400
Then the actual cost incurred for the prdn is operation 10 + Operation 20 + operation 30
It should not be for qty 85.
Edited by: Sundaresan . E. V on Jun 17, 2010 5:57 PM

COPA how to analyse sales by actual cost (MTS) ?

Hi All,
We use Make-To-Stock production type.
I want to make a drilldown report for sales analysis use actual cost (COGS + production variance), how to link production variance to sales data.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
Thanks & Regards
Sam

Hi Sam
As I said, you can tag variance of FG upto some extent to the COGS of FG...
Also note that, w/o ML, variance is disposed off in the month of mfg, where as COGS comes in the month of sale... For eg: You mfr 100 Kgs @ Actual cost of 120, where as your std cost is 100... You sell 50 kgs in Month 1 and 50 kg in month 2
In Month 1
COGS = 50 (@ std cost)
Variance = 20
In Month 2
COGS = 50
Variance = 0
Variance analysis w/o ML is always limited.. At best what you can do is draw your COPA reports on YTD (Year To Date) basis... Assuming that your closing and opening stock is more or less the same, your variance related to FG can now be analysed with COGS and revenues....
Also, if your prod order for FG is tagged to sale order on account of MTO scenario, your COPA doc for variance will have customer info as well
With ML in place
Variance of SFG can be rolled upto FG... i.e. Say, variance in SFG is 20 USD... Std cost of FG is 125 USD... When you roll up the variance to FG, your FG valuation will become 145 USD....
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Regards
Ajay M

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Dear CO Experts,
We are aware that when we run CKMLCP, all variances (in the Price Diff GL Account) due to Material Prices flutuation, diff in Standard & Actual Cost of Production, etc. would finally get settled to Consumption or Stock Account in its appropriate ratios.
Consumption Acount GL is a Cost Element with Cost Category as 1.
There can be cases, when there are diferences in Production Order, due to fluctuations in Prices or Actual consumption is more than standard consumption.
When a Production Order is settled the difference is posted to Price Diff Account.
When a Material Ledger (Actual Costing) is executed, Price Diff Account is targetted to be Zero. The Price Diff is then splitted in Stock & Consumtion Account in its appropriate ratios.
Main Question :
Since, Consumption Acount GL is a Cost Element with Cost Category as 1, what shall be the CO Account Assignment Object, when the ML value is settled to Consumption Accounts.

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   2. In case of mat set as V&2 idially there should not be any diff but may arise some small amount due to "no or less stock qty" at the time of invoicing.
3. When CKMLCP is run these price diff & order settlement diff splitted to cons and stock as you mentioned.
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" Since, Consumption Acount GL is a Cost Element with Cost Category as 1, what shall be the CO Account Assignment Object, when the ML value is settled to Consumption Accounts"
    Cons GL is cost element cat 1 for capturing mat mov for Issues to orders/cost centres,oth co obj for primary posting at stnd price.
    Now at the time of CKMLCP run you revaluate the materials and price diff are splitted to cons & stock and goes to mat to calculate act cost (stnd +/- prd).
I think this will give you some light on your issue.
kkumar

(project system) do book confirmation amount as a actual cost

HI all
it is possible in project system when i confirm my activity then it does not book actual cost to my network activity.
because i need to show this confirm amount as only for information purpose....my clint requirement.
thanks

with the material ledger, actual costs are not only used to value the stock at the period end. You also have the possibility to revalue the cost of goods sold with the actual costs of production for the period.
The system takes initial stock, initial value, production of the period, actual costs of production of the period to calculate "cumulative stock of the period" and "cumulative value". The cumulative value per unit is then applied to all consumption of the period (goods sold) and the final stock.
Your only alternative to the material ledger would be to value yout finished goods at V-price, not S-price. The problem with this is that you don't necessarily have all the information about actual costs at the moment your finished product enters stock. For example actual activity prices can only be reasonably calculated per period.
Whether V-price is an option depends on the details of your scenario.
To me material ledger is the right way to value stocks and COGS at actual cost.

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