Adaptec 51245 PCIe SAS RAID Controller

Hello
I am looking at running 8x WD RE4 2tb drives Raid 5 or 6 inside a Lian Li PC-A77F Case with an external HP1840 LTO4 tape drive
Would the Adaptec 51245 be the ideal controller for this as the other brands don't seem to support tape?
Or would it be better having two different cards eg Intel RS2BL080 for the raid and LSI SAS3801E for the Tape Drive.
Motherboard at this stage will be a ASUS Rampage 3 Extreme which will also have to provide slots for a capture card and possibly
a Panasonic PCD35 5 card reader
Any other suggestions welcome
Many Thanks
Martin

Running 2 different raid cards often depends more on the system board's bios than the cards. The most common problem is resource conflicts. With the current boards and PCI-e controllers on both the chipset and the southbrdige, it's alittle easier to do this without running into this problem. Just make sure you install 1 controller first after you update the bios on the board. Get the driver installed and update the firmware on that card before you install the 2nd card. Then update the firmware on that. If you use the component layout in Asus manuals to see which slots are attached to where, then you can make sure you have 1 card on the chipset and 1 on the southbridge.
Eric
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(edit: typo)
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