ADC DVI HDMI for external viewing of HD footage

Hi,
I have an HDTV that I want to use as a second monitor but primarily as an HD monitor for external playback from Final Cut. I need to know if this will work before I go and buy all of these cables.
Can I go out of my ADC with a ADC > DVI then go into the TV with DVI to HDMI? Would that work. Can I bypass the DVI and just find an ADC > HDMI cable? I don't even know if there is such a thing.
Thanks for the help.

I just posted this on another msg board regarding the topic::
Here is the link to the post too:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7922323#post7922323
I just received my cables in the mail today and set everything up.
This is what I did:
Dual Mac G5 2.5 w/ ATI x800XT
DVI -> Apple Cinema Display
ADC -> Belkin ADC to DVI Monitor Adapter -> Gefen DVI to HDMI Cable
Going to a Samsung 32" LN-S3251D
I did run into some little issues that I am trying to resolve. For some reason this setup did not initially work because my television would not switch to HDMI input. I don't think it was receiving a signal although in my system preferences it detected both displays. So I put the cinema display on the adc to dvi adapater and the LCD TV directly to the DVI output on the ATI card. This worked but tweaking resolutions and messing with the mirror mode wasn't producing what I wanted.
So while the computer and all the displays were still on, I switched the cables back to the original set up. Works perfect. I have 1 inch of black space running vertically to the left and right of my desktop (on the LCD TV). My cinema display looks the same as before. This is on mirror mode.
The thing I can not figure out, is how the **** can I keep this setup without losing the signal to the tv. If i switch to a different input source on the LCD, I can not get back to the HDMI with the computer showing
I am kinda new to this stuff... Any suggestions?
Cheers,
Scott

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So, first of all, the resolution changes between DVI and VGA due to overscan(?). Maybe the Start Menu distorts the background image? I never fully understood how this works. Why would the picture look any different? How can I make it look the same? However, this is not my top priority.
The big issue, as you can see, are the colors. The color difference between VGA and DVI is laughable! The MacBook Display colors look better than the TVs. The DVI colors are totally washed out.
Am I outputting the wrong signal? Anyone know how to check that? Or.. fix it? I'd appreciate a crash course on any of this.
On the MacBook I played with the System Preferences>Displays>Color>Calibrate settings (I've created 5 different color profiles) to no avail.

Just to continue documenting my progress here.
From my TV's forum thread:
jinqui242 wrote:
When you hook up the Macbook to the TV, it is acting as an extended desktop. I used to do this and wondered why I kept getting dropped frames and slowdown even on DVDs and DivX video. It did not fill the screen at 1080p even though Windows filled it.
To get it to fill up the entire screen, you have to close the Macbook ("clamshell mode"), wait until it goes to sleep, then plug an external USB keyboard or mouse in to wake it up. Then it will be working in 1080p mode and should fill up the entire LCD screen. Some people don't like this because they worry about the MB overheating.
I prefer to boot up in Windows XP on my Macbook. You can right-click on the desktop and it gives you an option to "Output to Digital Television." Then it blanks out the Macbook screen and outputs on the TV in full 1080p. The MB shell can stay open. High quality video usually runs better this way IMO. The Core Media Player is pretty good with most video files.
This is pretty strange/frustrating. I successfully booted the computer in clamshell mode but it still doesn't fill the screen. However, I rebooted the machine in clamshell and the BOOT SCREEN filled the screen! Then it reverts back to the little screen when the desktop opens up. Ugh!
Windows is my Plan B. Unfortunately, it requires backing up and reformatting.
Plus, why do I have to install Windows on my MacBook in order for this to work? Totally unacceptable. Why is this so difficult?! If Apple wants to get into the home theater market this MUST be worked out. I have no interest in buying an Apple TV if I already own a MacBook that SHOULD work fine. Why would I buy an Apple TV if it turns out I have to install WINDOWS on my MacBook for it to work?!
I hope you guys are listening.

MacBook Pro and Sony HDTV- DVI-HDMI connection problem

Hi, I am trying to connect my HDTV and MacBook Pro eith retina display by DVI-HDMI cable but there is no signal. My TV is Sony HDTV rear projection model# KDP-65WS550
I am not really good at Mac so please help me!

Hi egemenavsar!
I have two articles for you here that may help you resolve this issue:
Apple computers: Troubleshooting issues with video on internal or external displays
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1573
OS X: Using multiple displays in Mavericks
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5891
Thanks for being a part of the Apple Support Communities!
Regards,
Braden

Mini Displayport - DVI - HDMI 5V?

I kind of have an odd setup desire for an external display. I want to send video and audio to my entertainment unit from my MBP across the room. I already have audio sorted out (mini optical -> 30ft optical cable), but the video is a bit more difficult.
What I would like to do is have the Mini Displayport from my MBP go into my Mini DP -> DVI adapter (http://bit.ly/do7McJ). From there, a DVI to HDMI cable would take me to a HDMI over CAT5e/6 wall plate (http://bit.ly/C0bJg). This extender would then go to the TV.
The problem here is that the HDMI over Cat5e/6 extender needs the HDMI's 5V power source. Now, I have followed the pins all the way from HDMI (http://bit.ly/P2wWx - Pin 18) to DVI (http://bit.ly/TNJv5 - Pin 14?) to Mini Displayport (http://bit.ly/BCpof - Possibly pin 20)
Now I guess my real question is does anyone know if this will pass through 5V power: Mini DP -> DVI -> HDMI?
Thanx in advance.
EDIT: My other option would be this (http://amzn.to/gV9PKH), however it is much more expensive and the single Cat5e/6 cable would probably reduce quality.
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@Lambstechie - Now that I read into it, if the signal is converted, it can pass over 1 cat6 cable. What I was referring to is a cheaper converter, where an HDMI channel is connected straight to a Cat5/6 channel. And since HDMI 1.3 can work 100% perfect on 16 channels (just no ethernet, audio return, etc.) it seems like 16 channels over two 8-channel Cat5e/6 cables seems fit.
Also, I did not specify this earlier, but the total HDMI (not Cat5e/6) running distance will be under 10 feet, probably around 6 feet. Now when you say the loss of signal strength will happen around 15 ft of HDMI, does that include the distance running Cat5e/6 (approx. 30 ft), or just the HDMI length (6 ft).
@Eww - I see where you are coming from, and I did not see the price of those cables until now. That seems like a great deal. Thank you.
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