Add an internal SCSI HD to G3 MT

Hi everybody,
Your advice again please. I obtained a used Quantum Viking 3.5 series 68-pin internal HD. Can it be installed in my G3 MT as a second HD? I suppose a cable with appropriate connector (& terminator?) is needed. What are the set-up procedures and to what should I pay special attention?
Can the same HD be installed in my G4 AGP? Many thanks.
Henry

Henry,
This site has some additional information available that you might like to read.
Ultra 2 SCSI drive FAQ
http://www.transintl.com/technotes/macupgfaq.htm
"my Gossamer G3 300 MT there was an onboard SCSI bus that was shared with the external DB-25 SCSI port at the rear. I thus wonder if I could connect the Quantum drive to the G3 motherboard via a 50-pin cable (I got a 68 to 50 adapter at home for the HD)."
Short answer, Yes it will work fine. It will even work in a 6100/7100/8100 or a Quadra series computer. If you buy a PCI SCSI controller card, you can get faster performance but that is more money when you are ready.
"Structurally I know it is possible but am just concerned that G3 would not accept this extra HD internally. "
You are correct. It can be done with the adapter. In fact, if you place the adapter into the onboard connector, you can then have a 68 pin cable run to all new drives. You must be running an IDE drive in your MT now. The computer will accept the drive just fine. Finding a 68 pin ribbon cable with a terminator attached would be the best solution. A recycler in Seattle sells them with a terminator for less than $5 US. Hong Kong will have similar options available to you. My son found that adapter in a small shop in Tokyo. Easy to find.
"Today the G3 refused to boot up after the 'gong' sound, after I had opened up the case to look at the internal architecture. I had to disconnect the USB card, extra CD drive, reduce the RAM to 128MB, change the PRAM battery, reset the CUDA button and zap the PRAM etc to bring it back to life. "
I think that a 'warm boot' (using a keyboard command to restart after the 'gong sound' or startup chime) should have been your first step to avoid all the other disruption to the system. Less effort is sometimes more effective.
"Would the addition of the SCSI drive disturb the harmony of my existing system? I want to have a second physical HD in G3 to house the OS 9.2.2."
Short answer, no disturbance. In my first post, I assumed the possibility of an existing SCSI HDD in your MT. Since you do not have the SCSI card that was included with G3 servers, the drive you have now is IDE. It is on a different controller. Therefor, you do not have to worry about ID conflicts until you add a third drive. If you can find those drives for about $5 US then you can add several more economically on the 68 pin ribbon I suggested earlier. You will have slower performance until you buy a faster controller card but all other parts will work with a new card if you find one.
"My G4 AGP does not have an onboard SCSI bus and therefore is out of question. Thanks again for your advice."
If you do some careful shopping, you can find a PCI SCSI controller card that will fit in your G4 and the G3. Grant suggested one last year and my son bought two for $25 apiece. If you can find a computer recycler, they might have one in an old tower for $10. Someone posted that they found a G3 in London for 10 Pounds UK So I know others are finding good deals. Watch for parts still in used computers and the upgrade will not be out of the question.
Good luck,
Ji˜m
By the way, May 16, 2006 8:01 AM - a year ago, Mack Wong from Hong Kong posted with a similar request for help installing a 68 pin drive in his 6100. He found the adapter and cable and the drive worked just fine for him. You have plenty of options available to you in Hong Kong.

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