Addign product hierarchy to purchasing conditon

Hi,
I have a problem,
I'm trying to create a vendor discount condition based on the material's product hierarchy.
I added field PRODH to the field catalog and then created a new table, then I added the new table to the access sequence.
I created a condition record to for a product hierarchy.
BUT in the purchase order the condition is not recognized.
In the analysis there is a message for the access seq :" Access not made (initialized field) "
Can you please help me solve this issue.
Thanks,
Dave

Hi ,
i think something wrong with VARKEY itself , anyhow y dont you process BDC session with "Display Error Screen" then u wil come to know hot its passing the values to PRODH.....
regards
Prabhu

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