Adding 146GB drives to StorEdge 3310

I have a StorEdge 3310 with 6 72GB drives in it (RAID 10). Customer wants to add a pair of 146GB drives to increase capacity. Is there any issue with having disparate sized drives in a 3310 RAID array?

I have a 3310 disk array with 12 72gb drives ,
configured raid 5 , 1 hot spare...The host side scsi
parms are max queded i/o 256, luns /host 32, max #
concurent host lun 128, cyl/head/sector
cyl-65536,head-64, sector-255...... NO problems.
I have added a 3310 expansion unit to the original
disk array. expansion unit also configured raid5 ,
one local spare. sd.conf also update. I am able to
newfs, mount and use the disk. however it odd
compared to othe disks when using the solaris format
command. questions are the OK for 146gb drives. I
noticed that one of the options for cyl/head/sector
was variable. does anyone have experience using the
option???

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Partition logical drive storedge 3310

Hi
I have Sun storedge 3310 version 413B, i create logical drive in Raid 5 configuration:
LD LD-ID Size Assigned Type Disks Spare Failed Status
ld0 68EB1906 272.46GB Primary RAID5 5 1 0 Good
and i need create 16 partitions on it, but i can create only 7 partitions:
* partitions
LD/LV ID-Partition Size
ld0-00 68EB1906-00 14.00GB
ld0-01 68EB1906-01 14.00GB
ld0-02 68EB1906-02 14.00GB
ld0-03 68EB1906-03 14.00GB
ld0-04 68EB1906-04 14.00GB
ld0-05 68EB1906-05 14.00GB
ld0-06 68EB1906-06 14.00GB
ld0-07 68EB1906-07 14.00GB
How i can create other eight partitions on ld0; i need create this configuration:
ld0-00 68EB1906-00 14.00GB
ld0-01 68EB1906-01 14.00GB
ld0-02 68EB1906-02 14.00GB
ld0-03 68EB1906-03 14.00GB
ld0-04 68EB1906-04 14.00GB
ld0-05 68EB1906-05 14.00GB
ld0-06 68EB1906-06 14.00GB
ld0-07 68EB1906-07 14.00GB
ld0-08 68EB1906-08 14.00GB
ld0-09 68EB1906-09 14.00GB
ld0-0a 68EB1906-0A 14.00GB
ld0-0b 68EB1906-0B 14.00GB
ld0-0c 68EB1906-0C 20.00GB
ld0-0d 68EB1906-0D 20.00GB
ld0-0e 68EB1906-0E 20.00GB
ld0-0f 68EB1906-0F 20.00GB
ld0-10 68EB1906-10 24.46GB
any idea?....thanks

If you are using lun mapping to create your partitions, (done by using telnet to the array and then selecting "View and Edit Host Luns") you have to tell the array the maximum numbers of luns you can create. Some systems will only let you create one by default and you can't make any changes to the size of the lun you are trying to present to your host. There is an option when you telnet to the box in the controller area for the maximum number of luns you can create. Luns in this case are partitions.
If you are not trying to partition your logical drive by using lun mapping, I don't know what your problem is.
Stephen

Converting Storedge 3310 RAID unit to act as JBOD?

Hello, I have been struggling with this configuration, any advice is appreciated.
I have 4 x Storedge 3310 RAID units each with it own controller. I have 1 x Linux host and 1 x HBA in the host, with ch0 and ch1. I want to be able access to all 4 Storedge 3310s. Normally if this were 2 x Storedge 3310 RAID + 2 x JBOD then I just connect each RAID unit to a JBOD then each RAID to ch0 and ch1 respectively to the host. Instead what I have is 4 x Storedge 3310 RAID units, is there a way to convert two of the Storedge 3310 unit to make it act exactly like a JBOD? So that I can daisy-chain them to make them all accessible to the host?
Or adding another HBA card to the host is the only option?
thank you.

What is the difference between the host/drive channel? Besides the fact that they are their for connecting to disk drive or to host. Because lets say I connect the first RAID controller to the second one, host-to-host configuration from one RAID to another, will the host see this transparently?
By the way, I tried the JBOD method you mention so basically just connect one of the RAID unit to the other one just as a JBOD and the RAID controller can see the disks on a difference channel but only half of the disk because the RAID I/O actually have internal conneciton to half of the disk, while the other half is jumper.

Not all storedge 3310 disk showing up

I have a storedge 3310 hooked to my V440 running solaris 8 and not all the logical disks are showing up in the format command. I have a total of 4 logical disks configured on the array, two on the primary controller and 2 on the secondary controller. It appears that I only have one logical drive from each controller appearing. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

That worked however, now when I run format I get the following errors:
8. c4t1d1 <SUN-StorEdge3310-0325 cyl 34474 alt 2 hd 64 sec 32>
/pci@1d,700000/scsi@1/sd@1,1
9. c4t1d3 <SUN-StorEdge3310-0325 cyl 34474 alt 2 hd 64 sec 32>
/pci@1d,700000/scsi@1/sd@1,3
Specify disk (enter its number): Feb 21 18:10:44 socorro scsi: Vendor 'SUN', product 'StorEdge', 70606848 512 byte blocks
Feb 21 18:10:44 socorro scsi: WARNING: /pci@1c,600000/scsi@1/sd@0,2 (sd160):
Feb 21 18:10:44 socorro corrupt label - wrong magic number
Feb 21 18:10:44 socorro scsi: Vendor 'SUN', product 'StorEdge', 70606848 512 byte blocks
Feb 21 18:10:44 socorro scsi: WARNING: /pci@1d,700000/scsi@1/sd@1,1 (sd204):
Feb 21 18:10:44 socorro corrupt label - wrong magic number
Feb 21 18:10:44 socorro scsi: Vendor 'SUN', product 'StorEdge', 70606848 512 byte blocks
Will look into thme and see if I can get them resolved.
Thanks

StorEdge 3310 RAID hung.

During the billing run on a Sun Fire V440, the attached 3310 hung. Reboots of the server did nothing to improve the situation, but once the RAID was powercycled everything was alright again.
sccli version 2.1.1
built 2005.09.16.23.10
build 1 for solaris-sparc
Vendor: SUN
Product: StorEdge 3310
Revision: 0325
Peripheral Device Type: 0x0
NVRAM Defaults: 325S 3310 v1.37
Bootrecord version: 1.31G
Serial Number: 07CB61
There are no "event" entries for this trouble listed in sscli, and everything comes up green. The only errors we received at the time were that of SCSI errors:
Aug 10 10:49:30 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 107833 kern.warning] WARNING: /pci@1f,700
000/scsi@2,1/sd@0,0 (sd16):
Aug 10 10:49:30 InfranetDB01 Error for Command: write(10) Error
Level: Retryable
Aug 10 10:49:30 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Requested Block:
289557696 Error Block: 289557696
Aug 10 10:49:30 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Vendor: SUN
Serial Number: 29C8306F-00
Aug 10 10:49:30 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Sense Key: Unit
Attention
Aug 10 10:49:30 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] ASC: 0x29 (power
on, reset, or bus reset occurred), ASCQ: 0x0, FRU: 0x0
Aug 10 11:01:12 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] /pci@1f,700000/scsi@2
,1 (mpt1):
Aug 10 11:01:12 InfranetDB01 got external SCSI bus reset.
Aug 10 11:01:12 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 365881 kern.info] /pci@1f,700000/scsi@2,1
(mpt1):
Aug 10 11:01:12 InfranetDB01 Log info 11030000 received for target 0.
Aug 10 11:01:12 InfranetDB01 scsi_status=0, ioc_status=804b, scsi_state=8
Aug 10 11:01:12 InfranetDB01 scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] /pci@1f,700000/scsi@2
,1 (mpt1):
Aug 10 11:01:12 InfranetDB01 got external SCSI bus reset.
[repeat]
The question is whether or not to upgrade the firmware. Since the current firmware is so old (version 3.x) there seems to be special instructions to bring it to 4.x, and eventually 4.15G. Which would include OS patches as well. (117171-12).
Or, just carry on, since this has only happened once (during the last billing run) in the last 9 runs/months.

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Partition Storedge 3310

Hello All,
My first connection on this forum & I would need your help.
I have to configure a Storedge 3310 (6 disks 72Gb).
Already created:
1 Logical Drive: 5 disks in Raid 5 + 1 Spare
Size of the drive: 279GB.
I need to create 11 partitions (10*12GB + 1*159GB), but apparently, I can create only 8 partitions (from 0 to 7).
Could you help me? I don't know how to do.
I already read this topic: http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=831&threadID=5098175
But the answer is not really clear (for me...)
Thx.
Eric
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Eric_MdZ

I had to do something similar on site today, I believe (although have not tried it) that you alter the number of partitions to create on the 3320, however an alternative way of partitioning the Logical Drive is to let Solaris do it, by that I mean LVM ( formly known as disksuite). Bring the logical drive into solaris and create one large partition. Bring that single partition into LVM and then use "soft partitioning" to break it up. I have done this before and it works fine, its just another way of doing the same job albeit on the host and not on the Array.

Storedge 3310 and format

hi,
i have the following problem:
a storedge 3310 with raid controller. i have partitioned the volume ( which consists of 6 raid 1 logical drives) into 4 partions and assigned luns to these partitions.
probe-scsi-all shows the following:
/pci@1e,600000/pci@2/scsi@4
Target 0
Unit 0 Disk SUN StorEdge 3310 0325
Unit 1 Disk SUN StorEdge 3310 0325
Unit 2 Disk SUN StorEdge 3310 0325
Unit 3 Disk SUN StorEdge 3310 0325
format shows only the first one:
0. c0t0d0
/pci@1c,600000/scsi@2/sd@0,0
1. c0t1d0
/pci@1c,600000/scsi@2/sd@1,0
2. c2t0d0
/pci@1e,600000/pci@2/scsi@4/sd@0,0
where are the other three partitions?

Hi there,
I have a similar situation where I set up a SE 3310 connected to a Sunfire V210 running Solaris 10 GA.
The SE 3310 was set up as 2 RAID 5 logical volumes, each
with 5x72GB disk drives. I also map the hosts LUNS etc...
At the V210, when I did the probe-scsi-all it sees both RAID5
logical disks as StorEdge 3310 0325 (firmware 3.25)
however when I boot up with the -rv option, it only sees one
RAID5. Where is the other RAID 5 logical drive?
I did update_drv -f sd, devfsadm; manually edit the sd.conf
to add additional controllers and LUN's (c0,c1,c2 and up to
32 LUN's for each controller, but I still do not see the other
RAID5 logical drive. Where is it?
Please help !!!
Tony

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I recently received two Sun V20Zs and a StorEdge 3310, and I am asked to cluster these two machines with the 3310 as shared storage. 3310 came with two raid controllers.
My question is, could I create multi-initiaged LUNs and have these LUNs mapped by the V20Z. Reason behind having the multi-imitated LUNs is it will facilitate fail-over in case a one of the V20Z are unavailable.
V20Zs are running Fedora Core 3.
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This output reports anykind of errors to a particular disk since the last reboot. If you are seeing high error numbers, then you can move onto running a file system check - fsck - on the drive.
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Hi all,
A couple of things...
1. We have 2 storedge 3310 and two machines with Ultra3 Adaptors. I can not see the 3310 using the Ultra3 adaptors. If I plug the 3310 into the host controller I can see it, (but that is not ideal as it is running slow). at the 'ok' prompt I can see the 3310, but I can never get anything to display in 'format' or on the ssconsole.
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reboot -- -r
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devfsadm -v
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http://sunsolve.Sun.COM/data/816/816-2157/pdf/816-2157-14.pdf
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I am running into a problem. The vxconfigd deamon always dump core when rebooting.
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I took a look at the Veritas doc and you're right it does seem to cover everthing.
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Here at work, we have a Sun Enterprise 3500 that we need to buy new hard drives for. We wanted to add 2 x 73 GB hard drives to it, but according to the sun hardware compatibility page the biggest hard drives for it were 36 GB. The 73 GB drives have the same type of connector, pin numbers and speed of the drives that are currently in there. So my question is, can you use a hard drive that is bigger then 36 GB in a Sun Enterprise 3500? If not, is there a specific reason why the drives can�t be bigger then 36 GB? Is there any hardware/software limitation that prevents this?
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