Adding a 3rd Monitor to a Power Mac G5

I am curious as to how - and if - I can add a 3rd monitor to my G5.
Currently I have an ATI 9650 Graphics Card and it runs my 2 23" CD wonderfully. I have been considering adding a 3rd monitor if possible and getting a 30" to have in the middle of the 23's.
Does anyone have knowledge or experience in doing this. It doesn't necessarily have to be a 30 in the middle, another 23 would suffice.
Thanks in advance!!!

To my knowledge, the ATI 9600 PCI is currently the only PCI based
video card that can be used in the g5
This turns out not to be the case. Any 3.3 volt PCI card will operate in a G5 PCI slot. This should include Radeon 7000, 9000, and 9200 PCI cards. I'm using a PCI Raedon 7000 in my G5 this moment. With my 2-head 9600, I can run 4 displays.
7000 PCI = VGA + DVI
9600 AGP = ADC + DVI
I am skeptical that any PCI card has an ADC port. The PCI 2.x spec doesn't provide for powering an ADC monitor, so I suspect an ADC display can be driven from only an Apple-AGP slot or a standard PCI-Express slot.

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Is this article correct or am I misunderstanding it?
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In the context of the article, "Disc drive" does not mean a hard drive. Earlier in the article it states -
Solution
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