Adding a msata ssd to l430 as boot drive

Is it possible to clone my standard 320 GB HD to a msata ssd and put it in the pci slot on my Lenovo L430 and use that as the boot drive and use the 320 gb HD for storage?

Hi,
As Hemanth points out, the stock mSATA SSD as shipped (if your L has one) is too small to use as a boot drive. The stock SSD is intended as a fast cache for the HDD.
However, it should be possible to install a larger capacity mSATA drive and clone to that - or fresh install via recovery media or MS media. This is commonly done with Thinkpads - mine included.
The mSATA slot is dual-purpose: WWAN or SSD. If you have a WWAN card installed the slot won't be available for an SSD.
Note that cloning will probably "kill" the local recovery partition. It will still be there but not usable for local recovery - so it is essentially wasted space.
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Adding an mSATA SSD to an X230

I gather in some parts of the world you can get an X230 with an HDD and an SSD (in place of the WWAN adapter) from the factory, but not in the US. So, I'm thinking of doing it myself. My plan would be to add the SSD before installing any of my own s/w, then move the OS from the HDD to the SSD with something like this (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components/migrate-OS-to-SSD/). Set the HDD to unbootable in the BIOS and I'm pretty much done. I'd be interested in hearing comments from those who've done this, or who might have some advice even if they haven't. Thanks.

Involute,
you can clone HDD on msata SSD using some sw like Acronis or Intel (free of charge tool if you use msata SSD from Intel). Install msata SSD, install smth cloning sw on HDD and do it. This solution is better if you have fully installed and tuned system.
If you want to get the system like from the factory just make a Factory_Recovery media, remove HDD, insert msata SSD and launch new image installation. Then insert HDD.
In both case you'll get all 3 partitions on both drives. Then repartition them for youself. You can even delete Lenovo_Recovery partition on system (msata SSD) drive as you have recovery media.
Do not forget to change the boot priority within BIOS setup.
Note, for installation R&R on 2nd drive with installed on another (HDD) drive it'd be better to remove HDD from the bay temporary. After installation you'll get a system with working blue button.
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X230 / mSATA SSD - Will not allow boot (unauthorized network card)

this is killing me. I just got a crucial msata ssd. i went to install and the thinkpad whitelist fcc crap is giving me trouble. the system thinks it a network card and is therefore stopping the boot. i see others have installed msata on x230 and I have done this on other models as well.
does anyone know a way around this that doesn't envolve changing the bios to a custom bios hack?

Hello,
I don't have an X230 myself, but have you tried using a different MiniPCIe slot? On my X220, only one of the MiniPCIe slots is mSATA compatible. Perhaps it is the same way with the X230.
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SSD for system directory (boot drive)?

I'm curious why anyone would recommend an ssd drive for the system directory (boot drive). From what I read about ssd's, if there is a lot of (re)writing to the drive, the performance will degrade with time due to the way ssd's (re)allocate free space. Given that the paging space (backing store) would be on that drive (unless you go out of your way to place it elsewhere) and also the system caches, wouldn't you expect the performance to degrade with time? Yes, you can stick a bunch of memory on the machine and that may reduce paging. But still, over time, I would still expect the performance to still degrade.
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I have T430 with HDD and Windows 8, 64. I have installed a new 32 GB mSata SSD, but I cannot figure out a way to set it up as a cache.
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Hi, I am wondering if it is possible to use an ssd in the onboard msata port as the OS/boot drive. The manual doesn't seem to specify that the msata port is for caching drives only, so I figured it would not have any restrictions since it shares SATA5 port.
However, when I try to install the OS to the msata drive with no other drives connected, I receive an error saying that there is no drive eligible for install. If I plug in a second drive and set the msata drive as drive 0, the system reserved partition will install to the msata drive, but the actual windows files will install to the second SATA drive.

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Adding mSATA to W530 as boot drive

I saw somewhere that you could add an mSATA drive to the W530. But can you then make that your boot drive? I want to add an SSD but am deciding either an MSATA drive or a regular SSD. I'd like to keep my old hard drive as abackup (probably even leave it in the system if I can get an mSATA to boot the OS from itself).
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Boot from mSATA SSD in Probook 650

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Booting from msata ssd

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I just bought a new hp envy, i want to put a msata ssd drive and use as primary drive and install windows there.
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