Adding a Serial ATA jack to a Power Mac G5

Is there a certain Serial ATA jack that I should purchase for my Power Mac G5? I received one with an external Hard Drive I purchased and was wondering if it would work.

Hi mazematt, and a warm welcome to the forums!
Depending on the exact G5 you have, it sounds like you may be looking for an eSATA card, here's some for the 1.8GHz/SP/G5/PCI...
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?sort=pop&model=183&type=HardDrive+Controller&TI=2431&shoupgrds=ShowUpgrades

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Hi,
I have recently bought a new Mac Pro, to complete my conversion from Windows to Mac. However, in my old Windows machine, I have a 120GB Serial ATA hard drive.
I believe that I wouldn't be able to simply put this 120GB drive into my Mac Pro, as it is in NTFS format, which Mac cannot understand. I think that it has to be in FAT32 format, correct? So, if I was to re-format this serial ATA drive into FAT32, would it be able to work in my machine? Or are there more compatibility issues I might face? (Make, Model, Age issues?). I assume most SATA drives are similar, and that it should work, but I thought I should probably check before attempting it!
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Steve

Any SATA drive can be installed in the Mac Pro. OS X can read an NTFS drive but it cannot write to it. However, if you just want to use the drive with OS X then you should repartition and reformat the drive for OS X:
Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in the Utilities folder.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button and set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process will take 30 minutes to an hour or more depending upon the drive size.

Possible to re-use G5 serial-ata drives in a new Mac Pro?

I am getting ready to retire a Power Mac G5 Quad and am wondering whether I can take its two serial-ata internal hard drives and install directly into two of the empty slots I have in a new Mac Pro? Any issues that I should be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
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FWIW and just in case, guide to migrating.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=435350
And the Quad G5 seemed to be the only G5 that could actually use GPT format (probably preparing for transition to the Mac Pro I'd guess). Was also able to use NCQ and some other SATA II (2.5) features and specs.

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I think it is advice about the capability of the optical drive's hardware, eww, rather than a statement about its actual status at any given time. It simply means that the drive is capable of responding to power off commands from the computer's operating system.
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Does anyone know where I can buy a 750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm for the new mac mini??

There is a mac mini teardown for the new model at this site: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac-Mini-Mid-2011-Teardown/6131/1. Here it says that the user can easily upgrade their own mac mini hard drive, but does any place sell a 750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm for mac mini that you know of???
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Moving data from a dead G5 with serial ATA drives to a Mac Pro

I have a dead Power Mac dual 2.7 GHz G5. The red light on the edge of the mother board is on - and the machine does not start up. It has been dying slowly - the dual monitors turn off when I send an image to my printer.
It is under Apple Care - and today I purchased a Mac Pro quad 3.0 to replace it.
But - I need some files from the 2 drives in the dead dual 2.7 G5. They are 250GB Serial ATA; 7200 rpm drives.
From what I read here I cannot simply put the drives into the new Mac Pro.
So - I think that I need a firewire enclosure for the 250GB Serial ATA; 7200 rpm drives that will let me get out the data.
What is a good enclosure to do this - or is there another way? I can't send in the G5 for repair until I rescue the data from the drives and erase them.
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You can install them - you just won't be able to boot
from them.
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instead.
That would be great. I don't need to boot from them - I just need to rescue some files.
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Adding and configuring a second hard drive in a Power Mac G4

I am using a Power Mac G4 with the original 20GB hard drive and running OS 9.2.2.
I would like to upgrade to 10.4 (Tiger) installing it on a 80 GB Seagate Ultra/ATA 100 which I need to install as a second hard drive.
This is where my problem arises. From what I have read I cannot install OS 10 on a drive configured as SLAVE. On top of this Apple article ID 106728 has a note not to “change your Apple –installed disc drive to ATA ID-1 (slave) when adding other ATA devices.”
Is this article correct or am I misunderstanding it? I was hoping I could just install the new drive on top of the original and switch the configurations of the drives making my original drive the SLAVE and the new drive MASTER and just install OS X on the new 80GB drive.
Or can I put the new drive in the position of my original drive configure it as MASTER and put my original 20GB drive above it and configure it as slave?
I am hoping someone can let me know if these configurations will work.
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Hi, Thelisa -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
Is this article correct or am I misunderstanding it?
Yes, to both - the article is correct, and yes, you seem to be misunderstanding it.
In the context of the article, "Disc drive" does not mean a hard drive. Earlier in the article it states -
Solution
"Disc drive" refers to CD, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, Combo drives, SuperDrives.
The reason is that on most (if not all) G4s, an optical drive must be jumpered as Master in order for it to be a bootable drive. So, if an optical drive has been jumpered as Slave, it can not then be used to boot from the OSX Install disk.
You will need to place the drive to be jumpered as Slave in the top position of the bracket (the drive sled), and the one jumpered as Master in the bottom position of the sled.
The reason for this is the location of the connectors on the IDE ribbon cable (the data cable) - the one jumpered as Master needs to be attached to the end connector of the cable, and the one jumpered as Slave to the middle connector of the cable.
Because of the physical limits of the cable itself, the one jumpered as Slave must be on top, else the connectors won't reach to the proper drive.
Which drive is jumpered as which is your choice, but the one jumpered as Slave must be on top.
If I switch the position of my original drive will I lose access to the data on it?
No.
The designation of Master or Slave is, for the most part, simply to allow the Mac to have a unique physical address for each drive, so it can tell one from the other (this is separate from the pathname addressing that the OS uses). Re-jumpering a drive nor changing its physical location will not affect its contents nor their usability.
One result that may be important sometime is when the machine in question is set up as the Target machine in a firewire Target Disk Mode arrangement - only the drive jumpered as Master will be visible on the Host machine.
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i have a Dual 2 GHz Power PC G5. it has the origional 160 or 180 in there.
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just want to make sure i put the best drive as my main hard drive.
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If you want to use the ATA 300 drive at full speed you'll need to buy an ATA 300 Card, otherwise it
will only run at 150Mbps. It will still work but the throughput will be half since the Original G5 ata
controllers are serial ata 1 intead of the lastest version 2.
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I am debating between getting the LaCie d2 Hard Drive Extreme with Triple (300GB) and the LaCie d2 Hard Drive Serial ATA (400GB).
I would be backing up a PowerMac G5 (160GB HD), Dell Laptop (80GB HD) and an ibook (40GB HD). They are connected by ethernet cables via Belkin router which is also connected to a Motorola cable modem (Time Warner/ISP). The PowerMac G5 would be running Retrospect.
If I am planning on using one of them to run backups at home, which would be faster? I would think the LaCie HD Serial ATA to be faster. Maybe it would not make a difference with my current setup. Also, I am probably limiting my self since there are no USB or Firewire ports on the LaCie HD Serial ATA.
On a side note...the Maxtor OneTouch II 500GB External Firewire looks interesting. The size of the drive is definitely a plus. I am just not sure if I am comfortable backing up to a larger drive in case it unexpectedly fails. Plus I read some users getting locked out because of the Maxtor's built in "DriveLock" feature. Has anyone had good experiences with a 500GB drive? I generally hear mixed experiences regardless of the manufacturer.
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http://www.lacie.com/download/datasheets/d2hdSATAen.pdf
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http://maxtor.com/files/maxtor/en_us/documentation/data_sheets/onetouch_iidatasheet.pdf
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Power Mac G5 / 2GHz Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Oh, nobody seems to have answered your post so I'll give it a stab.
1: Serial ATA (SATA) is the fastest standard interface on PowerMac's only (far as I know), it's the interface connecting the internal drives. To get a external SATA you will need a SATA PCI card and external SATA drives. Unfortunatly other Mac's cannot connect to SATA as they use Firewire 400/800/USB. (there might be adpaters) So this might not be the best way to go. A triple interface external drive like the LaCie's Firewire 800/400/USB would be best for moving around different Mac's. However that doesn't mean you can't transfer data through the PowerMac from other Mac's to the external SATA drives, but your are bottlenecked by the slowest interface in the chain. So if you use a Firewire 400 network between the Mac's at that interfaces speed will be your over all performance. (Fastest interfaces: SATA, Firewire 800, then 400, then USB)
2: Windows uses a different disk formating than Mac's, so this will cause complications backing up a Windows machine to a common use drive. I advise getting a external drive just for that machine and "ghosting" or cloning the PC drive to it. Keeps the Windows problems off your Mac drives.
3: Another seperate drive for the iBook to clone to would be best. But you can take a larger drive and partition it to clone your PowerMac G5 to one partition and the iBook to another. Seperate drives is better as this gives you room to expand and use the drives for something else also if the partition map gets corrupted then you might have have trouble recovering data using utility software. Donationware Carbon Copy Cloner (visit the forums and read instructions for proper cloning) can help you clone or search Apple's site for Deja Vu for a great auto-cloning software.
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G5 Serial ATA Jumper Pins?

My original Hard Drive that came with the computer has a connector on jumper pins. I Have changed the startup disk to a New hard drive in slot one. And I have put the original hard drive in slot 2. Am I suppose to move the jumper pins from the original hard drive to the new hard drive that is the boot-up disk.
And I thought Serial ATA was suppose to get rid of jumper pins
Drive 1: 160 GB Seagate Raptor
Drive 2: 160 GB (original apple hard drive)
G5 1.8ghz dual

No you don't need to change the jumpers. Have you looked up the drive model on the vendor's site?
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I have a quad PowerMac G5 one of the last ones before the intel Pro version, I would like to install the new LG BlueRay/HD DVD drive in place of the superdrive. Will this work, the new drive is serial ATA, is I can't tell what the superdrive connection is from the spec sheet so I guess I will have to dive into the case and take a look.
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I added a second 160 gig ATA drive (Capacity:149.05 GB Model: ST3160023AS
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I have just built an Athlon 64 system using the motherboard stated above. When I boot the system up, I get an error message stating that the system can not boot up from the CD 95% of the time. I then use Ctrl-Alt-Del and the system boots up just fine. I have the BIOS set to search the hard disk first for boot up before looking at the CDROM and I still get this error. I believe it can not find the hard drive due to timing or what???
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+5v=30A
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