Adding an .eps to a nested style?

Anyone: can you tell me how to embed a small .eps dingbat into a nested style as a character style? No luck searching all day yesterday for the steps to take.

CMYK = a si gle color, or multi-colored?
Only if the entire thing has a single color: yeah, you can make a font of it. See http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1028609 -- the most recent One-Character demo can be downloaded from http://www.indiscripts.com/post/2013/05/indyfont-1-1-public-pro-release-and-users-guide
You can use your original InDesign drawing (NOT your exported eps!) but make sure to follow instructions, e.g., fill it with [Black].
This system does not work for multi-colored images. It is possible to create a font where each part should get its own color (you cannot 'save' colors in a font) but the demo is restricted to One Character Only.

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Nested styles: I can't seem to make this work

I can't seem to do this nested style: All Adobe Garamond. Headline: 24/25 centered. Return. Byline: 9/10 centered, stacked. "by" is italic with a .5, one inch wide rule above. Return. Author's name is small caps with the same rule below. Return. Body text is 9/10 regular, first paragraph has a 3 line bold drop cap, the other paragraphs have a .25 indent.
Nothing seems to work when I try to set this up. Rules everywhere...and I am supposed to have the document set up in 14 hours....help!

Nested Styles are character styles added inside a paragraph style that affect only certain parts of the text, based on trigger patterns that you set up. Typically you would use a nested style to do somthing like make the first three words of a paragraph Italic, or make a price bold on a menu.
It's probably technically possible to achieve your title using nested styles, forced line breaks as triggers, and paragraph rules above and below with the proper offsets, but what you want to do is not typically done with nested styles, but rather with a series of individual paragraph styles that are applied in rotation automatically using the "next style" attribute.
Mikes example is using three paragraph styles for the heading. PStyle1 (just a place-holder name for a pragraph style here) is applied to the text Headline 2, and as part of that style defintion the "next style" is set to PStyle2. PStyle2 is applied to the By line, and its next style is set to PStyle3, which is applied to MW Design. Each of these lines is a separate paragraph (he should have shown you the non-printing characters so you could see the hard returns at the end of each line). PStyle3 should have its next style set to your style for the first paragraph of body text that includes the drop cap, and that one needs a next style set to the paragraph style for your other body text. This last body style should have the next style set to "same style."
If you are typing directly in ID, for each story, set the style to PStyle1 and begin typing. When you hit Enter to move to the by line, the style will change automatically, and will change again each time you hit Enter until you are inthe second paragraph of the body copy, where it will keep the same style until you change it manually again.
If you are working with imported text you can select an entire story froom the fiorst line of the title to the last last paragraph of body copy, then right click on the PStyle1 name in the Paragrapgh Styles panel and choose Apply PStyle1 and Next Style and the whole shebang will get the correct styles applied in one click.

Nested styles

I'm using nested styles in one of my documents. Specifically, I'm creating a long schedule and putting the times in a different font than the meeting names. Works great visually, but I've noticed that the nested style isn't *actually* changing the character style. It picks up the attributes of the nested character style but still lists its Character Style as "None." Is there some way to tell it to indicate nested styles with the actual character name? It does reflect changes made to that character style; however, I had also intended to search on that character style, but that doesn't seem possible (unless I manually stylize all of them).
Not a huge deal, but I was kind of annoyed by it.
Phyllis

That's the way it is.
And here's a word of caution: Some people like to define styles by formatting the text first, then using the formatted text to pre-load the style definition dialog. There's a little check-box there in the dialog that says something like "apply to current selection" (defining a style doesn't automatically apply it).
If you've highlighted text and restyled, then created a character style with the box checked, and added that character style to a nested style, the highlighted text will appear the same as any other paragraph with the nested style, except that the character style is really applied (and shows up) as an override in that single paragraph. Should you later decide to change the nested style definition to use a different character style in that position, the change WILL NOT BE reflected in that single paragraph, which can be a bit disconcerting.
Peter

Using Nested Styles for Prices

I wish to easily plug in Prices and have them automatically edited to fit the style I want.
For example: If I typed $3.59. . . .I would want it to show up as automatically.
I am mainly concerrned with being able to apply Superscripts and Subscripts and erasing the decimal.
A step-by-step explaination would be amazing!
Thank you,
- Jack

Sorry, you can't do this with styles. Styles can change formatting of text, but cannot add or delete. For that you need to run find/change.
You can search for (\.)(\d\d) and replace with $2 and set the change format to your superscript (probably with a local override rather than a style, as will become clear in a moment). It would be nice to limit this to only prices by adding a lookbehind for the dollar sign and dollar amounts, but lookbehinds cannot have varable length strings, so you would have to do one for each possible number of digits, like this:
(?<=[$])(\.)(\d{2})
(?<=[$]\d)(\.)(\d{2})
(?<=[$]\d{2})(\.)(\d{2}) for 0, 1 and 2 digits in front of the decimal.
You'll need a second query to add the "ea" if you don't type it, probably find \d with the find format set to superscript and change to $0ea This will leave the "ea" also in superscript, so you'll need a second query to fix that: (?<=\d)ea with the find format again set to superscript. Leave the change field blank and set the change format for normal position.
All of these queries can be chained together to run in one operation using tools you'll find at http://www.kahrel.plus.com/indesign/chain_queries.html
I WOULD use an ordinary nested style, however, to style make the prices large and orange. That would be None up to 1 $ and then your big orange style through 1 word (this may at first only make the $and dollar portion of the price big and orange, but once the decimal point is removed it shoould fix itself. If you add a space before the "ea" you'll need to apply the style through 2 words.

Nested style highlights pink as if there's a missing font (?)

setting up a new document here, and trying to make the first character in each paragraph use Body 01 DROP CAPS character style. in this capture i've set it to the first three characters for testing (never mind the term drop caps; trying to use nested style here).
no matter what i set the typeface to in the character style, it won't display as nested. what would cause this?

There is a hierarchy to styles. First, the paragraph style is applied to all type in the paragraph, including any nested character styles that are part of the paragraph style definition. Next any character styles are applied, which override the formatting assigned in the paragraph style, and finally, any formatting you apply locally by selecting text and changing the parameters is applied, and that overrides everything.
Local formatting overrides show up for selected text as a Plus sign after the style name in the Paragraph Styles panel. Do you see the plus sign when you select your text? I suspect not. More likely, you've applied a default character style to everything, so no matter what settings you have in your paragraph style they will be overridden by the applied character style. As I said before, character styles are used only for selected text. They are used for "special" text that needs to be different in some way from the other text in a paragraph -- the basic formatting for the entire paragraph is defined in the paragraph style.
When you highlight an entire paragraph there should NOT be a character style showing as applied as well. The character style should be either [None], indicating that no text has an overriding character style applied, or it should be blank, indicating that some portion of the text has a character style applied, but not the whole paragraph.
Bottom line, with no text selected make sure the character style is set to [None] before you begin adding text, and only apply character styles through Nested, Line, or GREP styles in your paragraph style, or by selecting specific text and manually applying the style. Manually applied character styles survive changes to the paragraph style, and are actually the most useful if they are fairly generic, applying just a color, or bold or italic, but not specifying a face or size, so they let the face and size change to match any changes made to the paragraph style -- you usually don't want 9 pt minion bold suddenly appearing in the middle of a paragraph that you've changed to 12 pt Helvetica unless it's a product branding. Instead a style that says only Bold would give you 12 pt Helvetica Bold.

Mapping XML tags to paragraph styles that contain nested styles

I am importing XML into InDesign (CS5.5) and the tag mapping to styles is working fine until I get to a paragraph style that contains a nested style.
I have a sentence that starts with a number:
1the dog runs fast.
In InDesing properly styled looks like this:
1 The dog runs fast.
(tab)1(tab)The dog runs fast.
The number is styled with a character style (Number) and the whole sentence is styled with a paragraph style (Sentence). In order to get the tabs in between the number, I have a nested style within the paragraph style (Sentence). This triggers the tabs when it hits the character style (Number) like this:
Number up to 2 Tab Characters
In XML, it looks like this
<sentencetag><numbertag>1</numbertag>The dog runs fast.</sentencetag>
Sentencetag is mapped to Sentence paragrph style and Numbertag is mapped to Number character style, but the nested style for the tabs are not displaying. I just get this in IND.
1the dog runs fast.
Everything works beautifully until I hit the nested styles, which I do need to get to work somehow. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

It sounds like your tab characters are actually disappearing from content in the XML. Jeff was responding to the fact that they need to be there, and you state that you originally had them in your document, but they are not showing up once imported through the XML.
The tabs may be disappearing in the XML document due to the "TAB" character in your text editor not being a tab, or at least not properly-formed XML TAB equivalent, OR because you are not "importing whitespace elements" when you import your XML.
Importing whitespace elements can wreak havoc on other things in your XML structure and styled layout within the Indesign document, so I would put the XML quivalent of TAB everywhere a tab should be in your XML, and make sure NOT to import whitespace (when importing XML using "Merge Content", select not to import whitespace items from the import options).
I believe the XML friendly character code for a TAB character is "	" or "	" but have not tested this. Don't include quotes when adding the character code, just the ampersand, semicolon, and everything in-between.
Also, sounds like your tags are mapping ok for you, so your XML should look something like:
<sentencetag>	<numbertag>1</numbertag>	The dog runs fast</sentencetag>.
It should't matter where you put the TAB character equivalent in relation to your nested tag.

Apply Nested Styles Script not working for me anymore

//DESCRIPTION: Applies nested styles as directly applied character styles.         WARNING: This script will override any character styles which are directly applied to the text with the nested styles applied, and formatting might change!
(function(){
     function IsValid (obj){
          var err;
          try{
               if(!obj){return false}
               if(kAppVersion>=6){
                    return obj.isValid;
               var test = obj.parent;
               return true;
          catch(err){return false;}
     function ResetFindPrefs(){
          if(kAppVersion<5){app.findPreferences = null;}
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     function ResetFindChangeOptions(){
          app.findChangeTextOptions.properties = {
               includeLockedStoriesForFind:false,
               includeLockedLayersForFind:false,
               includeHiddenLayers:false,
               includeMasterPages:false,
               includeFootnotes:false,
               wholeWord:false,
               caseSensitive:false
     function GetTempColor(doc){
          for(var i=0;i<doc.swatches.length;i++){
               if(doc.swatches[i].label == 'harbsTempColor'){return doc.swatches[i]}
          return doc.colors.add({label:'harbsTempColor'});
     function GetAppColor(colorName){
          for(var i=0;i<app.swatches.length;i++){
               if(app.swatches[i].name==colorName){return app.swatches[i]}
          return null;
     if(app.documents.length==0){return}
     kAppVersion = parseFloat(app.version);
     var doc = app.documents[0];
     if(kAppVersion<5){
          var charStyles = doc.characterStyles;
     }else{
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     var tempDocColor = GetTempColor(doc);
     var colorName = tempDocColor.name;
     var tempAppColor = GetAppColor(colorName);
     var removeAppColor=false;
     if(!tempAppColor){
          removeAppColor=true;
          tempAppColor=app.colors.add({name:colorName})
     for(var i=1;i<charStyles.length;i++){
          var savedColor = charStyles[i].underlineGapColor;
          var finds=undefined;
          var findsLength=0;
          do{
               if(finds){findsLength=finds.length}
               charStyles[i].underlineGapColor=tempDocColor;
               ResetFindPrefs();
               if(kAppVersion<5){
                    app.findPreferences.underlineGapColor = tempDocColor;
                    app.changePreferences.appliedCharacterStyle = charStyles[i];
                    doc.search("",false,false,'');
                    break;
               }else{
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                         app.findTextPreferences.underlineGapColor = tempAppColor;
                    }else{
                         app.findTextPreferences.underlineGapColor = tempDocColor;
                    app.changeTextPreferences.appliedCharacterStyle = charStyles[i];
                    finds = doc.changeText();
                    //alert(finds.length);
          }while(findsLength!=finds.length);
          charStyles[i].underlineGapColor=savedColor;
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This was a script to apply nested styles directly to the text as character styles.It was supplied to me by someone on this forum to help make a file adaptable to an epub doc. It has worked fine for many months but now it does not. I am wondering if the cause is that I have added two nested styles in the paragraphs, where before there was only one. The paras. are currently set up with nested styles as follows:[none] up to En Space, italic through 5 sentences.                  I am using 5 sentences because I can't figure how to use a para. end as a limiter. I know this is confused but any help will be appreciated. Thanks

That looks like mine (and someone didn't follow my request on this page) :
http://in-tools.com/scripts.html
What doesn't work?
You can PM me, and I'll try to figure out what's wrong...
Harbs

Find/Change problems within a nested style?

I have a problem with Find/Change (in both CS4 and CS5) not recognizing text within its “find” parameters when text that fits those parameters is part of a nested style. I want to find any instance of italic in the text, regardless of what paragraph or character style it is, but F/C only intermittently finds italics, both within and without that text existing in a nested style. Has anyone come across this issue?
There is NOTHING different about the text that is recognized by F/C–or not recognized–that shows up in any of the panels or palettes. There are no font conflicts. I’ve replaced prefs and saved data files. If I go into the character palette and change the italic portion of the nested style to “italic” character style (it shows up in character palette as [none], even though it has a nested style), then F/C finds it for sure; but if I don’t do that, then F/C will sometimes find it, and sometimes not, and sometimes in one instance and not in another! There is no hidden formatting that shows up in story editor. I remade another nested para style with the same formatting but with varying results! Help… I’ve tried everything.

I have a problem with Find/Change (in both CS4 and CS5) not recognizing text within its “find” parameters when text that fits those parameters is part of a nested style. I want to find any instance of italic in the text, regardless of what paragraph or character style it is, but F/C only intermittently finds italics, both within and without that text existing in a nested style. Has anyone come across this issue?
There is NOTHING different about the text that is recognized by F/C–or not recognized–that shows up in any of the panels or palettes. There are no font conflicts. I’ve replaced prefs and saved data files. If I go into the character palette and change the italic portion of the nested style to “italic” character style (it shows up in character palette as [none], even though it has a nested style), then F/C finds it for sure; but if I don’t do that, then F/C will sometimes find it, and sometimes not, and sometimes in one instance and not in another! There is no hidden formatting that shows up in story editor. I remade another nested para style with the same formatting but with varying results! Help… I’ve tried everything.

Finding "End Nested Style Here" option

Hi,
How to find and replace the "End Nested Style Here" marker through InDesign CS3-JS.
Thanks,
P. Ramkumar

If you use findText, you can find it using ^h
In findGrep it is ~h
Dave

How do I create a table of contents with a nested style paragraph?

I'm having difficulty figuring out how to generate my Table of Contents with a nested style. In this screen shot, "SPECIAL EVENTS" is considered level one and the pink circled "Fittest Firm Challenge" is level 2. Because it is a nested style, it is picking up the entire paragraph. I don't want to put in a paragraph break because that would add too much space in the magazine since there are a lot of other listings like this. I've tried reading through other people's discussions but I'm totally lost with the explanations. Is there a simple workaround or solution to this?

apricotanna wrote:
I'm having difficulty figuring out how to generate my Table of Contents with a nested style. In this screen shot, "SPECIAL EVENTS" is considered level one and the pink circled "Fittest Firm Challenge" is level 2. Because it is a nested style, it is picking up the entire paragraph. I don't want to put in a paragraph break because that would add too much space in the magazine since there are a lot of other listings like this. I've tried reading through other people's discussions but I'm totally lost with the explanations. Is there a simple workaround or solution to this?
You're asking InDesign to do something it's not designed to do, namely, to treat a nested-style section of a paragraph as an independent paragraph. That's called a "run-in paragraph" in Adobe FrameMaker, and it's been a beloved feature there since FrameMaker was introduced in '89, about ten years before InDesign.
You can make a formal feature enhancement request here: Wishform Many InDesign features have come into being from user requests, so lend your voice, and be patient. Explain why you think a run-in paragraph feature would be useful.
Others have asked about this, and there are a number of workarounds that may or may not be suitable for you. Let's hope that some of the more-intense forum folks can help you with a useful search term for this forum, so that you can review what's been suggested and tried in the past, and what results you can expect.
In the meantime, you might consider inserting the second-level heading in an inline anchored text frame in the paragraph. It will be an independent paragraph but you can adjust appear on the same line as following paragraph. Then you can extract it for the TOC.
Here's an example:
HTH
Regards,
Peter
Peter Gold
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Using nested styles to break blocks of text into different pages

Hello everyone,
I'm treating data collected through a Google Docs form and I've already set it up so that the questions appear on the left and are followed by the respective answers sequentially so that I have a simple way to copy paste the whole information to Indesign. Then I'm going to use nested styles to define individual styles for the questions and answers.
What I can't do, however... and I'm not even sure if it's possible, is how to tell Indesign to break text that is laid out sequentially into different lines or to break blocks of text so that they start in the beggining of the next page without having to resize the text frames by hand.
As a visual example this is what the data I've exported out of excel looks like:
Question 1 (tab) Answer A1 (line break)
Question 2 (tab) Answer A2 (line break)
Question 3 (tab) Answer A3 (line break)
Question 1 (tab) Answer B1 (line break)
Question 2 (tab) Answer B2 (line break)
Question 3 (tab) Answer B3 (line break)
(and so on in groups of 3 questions)
And I want to turn it into:
Question 1 (turn the tabs into line breaks)
Answer A1
Question 2
Answer A2
Question 3
Answer A3
(and then start at the beggining of a new page)
Question 1
Answer B1
Question 2
Answer B2
Question 3
Answer B3
I can't define the size of the text frames so that the next group of questions+answers starts at the beggining of a new page because some of the answers are multi-line fields and thus the number of lines of the answers are variable and they can come short of the text frame edge or pass it.
Can anyone share some insight of how to do this (or if it is at all possible)?
Thank you very much!
MACC

Thank you very much for your input.
I'm trying to automate this process as much as possible because I don't want to have to crunch the data manually myself later on, instead just teach someone else how to do it.
The first search and replace action seems basic enough but regarding the second one I would have to manually assign that paragraph style to the line where the data would break because one can only assign character styles in nested styles, right?
Also I've heard that ID CS5 automatically creates new pages based on a template when you paste information inside the first page, is that so? That would be great because that way the person wouldn't have to manually create pages and link the contents throughout the document but instead simply open my template and paste the information within the first master page. That's not possible with CS4, is it?
Thank you very much!

Creating Styles.. and then nesting styles

Seems simple enough:
tell application "Adobe InDesign CS5.5"
tell active document
set myCharacterStyle to make character style with properties {name:"Year", size:26.0, fill color:"Paper", stroke color:"Black", stroke weight:0.75, font:"Helvetica", font style:"Black"}
set myCharacterStyle to make character style with properties {name:"Years", size:18.0, fill color:"Black", stroke color:nothing, stroke weight:nothing, horizontal scale:80.0, vertical scale:80.0, font:"Helvetica", font style:"Black"}
set myParagraphStyle to make paragraph style with properties {name:"Year"}
set nested styles of myParagraphStyle to {{applied character style:"Year", repetition:1, inclusive:false, delimiter:any word}, {applied character style:"Years", repetition:2, inclusive:true, delimiter:any word}}
end tell
end tell
The font and the point size do not come through when the style is created. The nested styles also do not come through.
I tried applied font:"Helvetica" to get 'font family not available'. Also, font:font "Helvetica"...
What I get right now I is no font defined or size. The rest works.
So what am I doing wrong here?

Hi lithodora,
as Mary Posner wrote a character style doesn't have the property 'font', but 'applied font' and 'font style'.
"... specified as either a font object or the name of font family."
just look it up in the dictionary ...
Try always to work with references.
tell application "Adobe InDesign CS5.5"
    --you've got to set myHelvetica to your needs!
    set myHelveticas to (font family of every font whose name contains "Helvetica") --will return the helvetica font familiy names
    set myHelvetica to item 1 of myHelveticas --just randomly pick one for my example, hoping it's got a 'black' style ;-) ...
    tell active document
        set myCharacterStyle01 to make character style with properties {name:"test", size:26.0, fill color:"Paper", stroke color:"Black", stroke weight:0.75, applied font:myHelvetica, font style:"Black"}
        set myCharacterStyle02 to make character style with properties {name:"tests", size:18.0, fill color:"Black", stroke color:nothing, stroke weight:nothing, horizontal scale:80.0, vertical scale:80.0, applied font:myHelvetica, font style:"Black"}
        set myParagraphStyle to make paragraph style with properties {name:"nextTest"}
        tell myParagraphStyle
            make new nested style with properties {applied character style:myCharacterStyle01, repetition:1, inclusive:false, delimiter:any word}
            make new nested style with properties {applied character style:myCharacterStyle02, repetition:2, inclusive:true, delimiter:any word}
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    end tell
end tell

Can you edit an existing nested style in CS5.5?

In a previous InDesign CS5.5 document, I created a paragraph style containing a nested style. The nested style applied a bold font to the first sentence only, with the rest of the paragraph appearing in a roman version of the same font.
I'm creating a new document now and would like to use the same paragraph style/nested style combination, only with different fonts.
Is there some way to edit an existing nested style, or do I have to create a new one for the new fonts?
Thanks for your help.

You can load the paragraph style in the new document and then change the font....
In the new document , Go to Paragraph style panel flyout menu and then choose "load paragraph style"and then choose the file in which you have this nested paragraph style present.

What is wrong with my Nested Style?

Hi guys,
Frustrating times in InDesign when Nested Styles do not behave as i would like to. I would like to have a highlited text after the Hard Return or ":" a simple Character style Helvetica Bold like here.
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1gFC1qoFDCNkgJy3BmxEYZc3ZEAE0
I don´t know what i am doing so wrong i get this Morse Code. The highlight stuff is mixing up everything. The highlight is deselected in the character style but keeps appearing...
Any idea?
Thanks
Sebastian
pd: i know the palettes are in Spanish but i guess is mostly understandable since the locations of things are the same.

You are totally misunderstanding how nested styles work. Once hit the
return key you're starting a new paragraph. If you want your text to
pick up a character style after the colon then use a soft return instead.
Bob

Grep Styles/Nested Styles from the end of the paragraph

Hi -
It appears that grep styles, and nested styles only allow you to apply styles from the beginning of the paragraph until the match.
I'd like to be able to apply styles from the END of the paragraph going back.
This would allow me to apply a non-breaking character style to the end of a paragraph to control "runts". You could make the last two words of a paragraph non breaking, or set a 15 character threshold.
This wouldn't work for all cases, but I'm working with centered, non-justified text, so it should work fine. If the feature were there.
I'm sure there are other things one could do with it as well.
There's a good discussion, and a MANUAL work-around on
http://pdsassoc.com/tipsCS/DeruntingParagraphs/index.html
Tom

I used your suggestion and reviewed the tutorial again.
Sometimes a missing piece of info drives you nuts.
Thanks again.
My clients will love this enhancement.
CS rocks.

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