Adding apple loops?

Hi guys,
Wonder if you can help me with this.
I have a few Big Fish sample cd's that have apple loops on them, is there a way I can add them so they show up in the logic apple loops browser in the appropriate section?
Where would I need to copy them? I have all my samples on an external hd so would it be possible to reference them to show up in the browser??
Many thanks in advance.

Hello,
I am having trouble making my own apple loops and am hoping someone can helo: When I highlight an audio region in the arrange window, use the "add to apple loops library" under the local region command, the loop shows up in the apple loops browser, but it is an empty audio region when i drag into the arrange window to an audio track. when i drag a midiloop into the browser, it seems to work out fine, and i can create a green apple loop, but not with audio. i've noticed, that the loops are saved under users/library/apple loop/user loops/single files, but even when i try to import the audio files from this folder as audio into the arrange window or audio window, they still come up as empty files. can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong?
thanks in advance.
dave

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zgogor wrote:
1/ apple loops folder / check them ....
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I have been using it, but considering the strange behavior I'm getting (see question #3 and #4) I think I might be missing a step or doing it wrong. Right now I open an audio selection in Apple Loops Utility, fill in the tags, mess around with the transient sensitivity, then "save." So why can't I add it as a loop after that?
3/ no of course.
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I did use the loop utility first. I mentioned that in my original post.
Message was edited by: Zachary Conlyn
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http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2931
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Whenever I open up my Apple Loops on Logic Pro X, they are not selectable.
I have tried reinstalling the program and reinstalling the loops, but that did not work.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

What do you mean.. nothing happened?
Make sure you followed the instructions exactly.....
From the Apple () menu, choose System Preferences.
Click Spotlight.
Click the Privacy tab.
Drag a folder or an entire volume (your hard drive) to the list.
If prompted for confirmation, click OK.
Remove the item or volume you just added to the list by clicking it and then clicking the minus ("-") button.
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It's not really a solution, more of a workaround, but I've had some luck doing this;
Since ALU just changes the data on the file, and rebuilding the database seems to only affect original, included Apple Loops (which is horse crap, btw) I decided to change their info with ALU, then import them like any other file into a Logic project.
When I do it that way, after I have added them to the bin, they are searchable in the loops browser. It seems that converting them to Apple Loops using the standalone ALU does not necessarily make them searchable by Logic's internal loop browser. But, if you add them to project's bin manually or create them in the arrange window (which also adds them to the bin) then they become searchable.
I'm not sure why, it just has worked for me. It's still really inconvenient for converting large loop libraries for searching and sequencing in Logic though. No improvement on that from L8 to L9 either.

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All - this is a question involving Garageband, but only because I have heard Logic will "inherit" GB projects, so I'm assuming (not having bought it yet, pending this question possibly), that Logic operates its loops area the same way.
I stumbled on this (archived) thread....
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1896042
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Typically I have had this happen when the loops I have tried to add, were not proper Apple Loops for some reason... I assume you have been using the ALU to create the Apple Loops yes? if so, did you enter info in all the fields needed?
There can be other reasons though...
For example,
Are the loops in other time sigs to 4/4 for example? If so make sure you select ANY in the Signature drop down menu in the Loop Browser to see them...otherwise you only see loops in 4/4 and they won't show up when you look for them. The same applies to to the scale filter in the browser too...Set that to ANY too...
Finally, to confirm it is an error of some kind, be it user or Logic...have you checked the actual Apple Loops Folder to make sure the missing ones do actually reside there?

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