Adding Bluetooth to my MDD dual 1.25??

Just curious if anyone knows if an Apple Bluetooth Module, Model A1044, p/n 820-1449 will fit/work in my G4 MDD dual 1.25? I believe that there is a built in antenna and plug right next to the AirPort slot in my tower. If not, how about a card with the p/n 820-1696-A? I think that one is for a newer G5 but not sure either.
Any info would be great. I can't find any info anywhere and I'm looking a a module on ebay.
I had originally posted this elsewhere but I think I found the right area for the experts to take a gander...
Thanks much,
Robert

Carl B;
Specs for the '02 (DP 867, DP 1 GB, DP 1.25) FW400 MDD series lists a Bluetooth adapter in the "Other" section - options, I presume.
For the '03 1.25 (only) FW400 MDD, as you state, no Bluetooth option is listed under specs.
Since I already have a Bluetooth dongle in the internal USB port on my USB/FW PCI expansion card - and it works great - I really don't need this adapter. I did buy one and will check it out on my '03 FW400 1.25 MoBo. Actually purchased the adapter to try installing it in my wife's G5 iMac - bought it new but did not specify Bluetooth. Want to see if this will work. Just after we purchased the iMac, I inquired about Bluetooth and Apple said "tough luck, Charlie, nothing you can do now!" Told me the MoBos were different between no Bluetooth and Bluetooth option. Didn't really believe that. I'll know next week about both computers and Bluetooth.

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