Adding firewire to a Lombard: Is a PC card 100% reliable?

I have a Belkin firewire PC card for my G3 Lombard powerbook (there is no built-in firewire on the Lombard), and I was thinking about connecting a Lacie Porsche hard drive using the firewire card.
But does anyone know if a connection like this is completely reliable? I'm going to use it for backing up data, and it would be terrible to discover at a later stage i.e. that some of the files have been corrupted.
Basically the Belkin card was made especially for Apple G3 powerbooks, for video importing and connection of firewire devices, so it should be ok. But on the other hand, Lacie suggest using native FireWire ports when possible...hmm...(??)
Thanks in advance for any advice on this.

apple.pie,
Although not the last word on the subject, I have never read anything negative on the integrity of data passing through FireWire PC cards. Since I am not familiar with the Porsche HD, I will add this comment: Both FireWire and USB PC cards supply limited bus power; if the LaCie HD does not have its own power supply, the FW PC card will not run the HD. Portable FW and USB (2.5") HDs usually run just fine from built-in ports but not PC cards.
You will also have to install the FireWire drivers for 9.x while they are built-in with OSX:
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