Adding fixed cost in production order and creating liability

Dear All,
We are manufacturing one of our grade of material in a plant which we do not own.We pay some fixed charges to the owner of that plant @ Rs150 PMT produced in that plant.This fixed charges is to be included in the production order and at the same time liability for that fixed charges is also to be created so that payment can be made to that vendor.
For charging this expenses to the production order we have created one activity type and one secondary cost element.But with this the liability can not be created.
Please advice how to proceed in this circumstances.
Regards,
Shivaji

hi
I am following this thread...but want to add some views on this..
As I understood from your requirement that you are sending this material to a third party for some conversion with a fixed charge...so you must have a conversion contract with that party. In my views the process should be...
1. Conversion contract with the party (MM)
2. Material will be received from third party with conversion cost at the time of GR (MM)
     Example... Original cost + fixed conv cost = GR value
3. Invoicing ... MIRO ..Party will be credited at fixed conversion cost
4, When the same material is issued to another prod order the GI will be at cost as per sl.2
   Please revert back if you have any question
   Kamal

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Hi all,
I have the following question/scenario:
We create prodction order to collect cost (hours) for a service. There exists also a material master for this service.
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Edited by: Butch66 on Sep 27, 2010 7:07 PM
Edited by: Butch66 on Sep 27, 2010 7:08 PM

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