Adding FW 800 to a DP G4 mirror door

I have a DP 1.25 G4 (mirror door) and I bought a G-Tech firewire800 pci card for it, planning on hooking up a Gtech G-Raid to it. Now I just read in the documentation, that to actually get fw800 speeds, you have to have a 64-bit card. If you only have 32-bit slots, you only get fw400 speeds. How do I find out if my G4 has 64-bit slots, or if just has 32-bit pci slots? Or does someone know the answer to this?
Thanks in advance.

Based on the information on this page:
http://www.apple-history.com/body.php?page=gallery&model=g4_mirror&performa=off& sort=family&order=ASC
they are 64 bit.

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