Adding internal drives-Apple store: $329 vs everywhere else: $105-163 ?

I have a Mac Pro. Bought it 1 year ago. Sys Profiler tells me:
Processor: 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Memory: 2 GB 677 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Disk Utility tells me my two internal hard drives are as follows:
ST3500641AS P Media
(which I think is: Seagate ST3500641AS 500GB SATA/300 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive)
WDC WD2500JS-41SGB0 Media
(which I think is: Western Digital Caviar SE SATA Hard Drive 250 GB, 3 Gb/s, 8 MB Cache, 7200 RPM)
I want to add storage. My reason is I now use external firewire drives for photo, video files I work on day to day and I’ve noticed erratic behavior when running two or more. So I want to run from internal drives and use the externals for backup. However, when I look at what to get, I am stumped by the radical variations in prices for what seem like same or similar drives.
Here’s an example:
At the Apple store I get this:
Apple Hard Drive for Mac Pro - 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s
A 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb-per-second Apple Hard Drive operating at 7,200 revolutions per minute. Works with Mac Pro. Price: $329.00
Elsewhere I get this:
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Buffer W/ Perpendicular Drive Technology. New w/5 Year Seagate Warranty! (SEAST3500630AS) $149.
Seagate/Barracuda 7200.10/500GB /7200/16MB/Serial ATA-300 /OEM Hard Drive $119
And this:
WD Caviar SE16 500GB Hard Drive
(Serial ATA-300, 7,200 RPM, 16MB - MPN: WD5000AAKS)
Price Range: $105.99 - $163.16 from 31 Sellers
Can anyone advise me on this? Thanks.
noodle--head

Hatter
Thanks for the recommendations. Regards the Barefeats benchmarks, I've spend some time trying to find the 10 drives test. I started trying to find this when I saw your mention of it in another post. The closest I come are these: "SHOOTOUT: Quad Xeon 3.0GHz Mac Pro versus Quad G5 2.5GHz Power Mac. Originally posted August 10th, 2006." And "SHOOTOUT: What's the Fastest Boot Drive for the Mac Pro? Originally posted August 17th, 2006." But these are a year ago. In any case, based on the latter, they say: "the overall fastest single 7200rpm drive was the MaXLine Pro 500GB. The second fastest 7200rpm drive overall was the Hitachi 7K500."
Can you shed some light on how come you'd go with the WD Caviar? At OWC, they list: 500GB Maxtor MaXLine Pro 500 SATA II 3.0Gb Hard Drive-Enterprise class, 16MB Buffer, 7200RPM. $99. (What's Enterprise?). Any reason for not going with that?

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Hi,
I'm new to Macs and hope you guy's out there can help me. I have emailed WD, and spoken to Apple support without success and spent hours looking through discussion group threads trying to find an answer to what appears to be a simple question;
Which internal drives are compatible to the MacPro 4.1 (2009)?
My main concern is that all the Apple stuff refers to screwing the internal drive (Apple Store variety) to the carrier and sliding it into place(cable not required). So far so good. But when I look at Western Digital web site (and others) I see that it is suggested that a cable is required connecting the drive to motherboard.
To me as an engineer (retired) these are not compatible if the drive does not fit A) onto the supplied carriers and B) there is a cable connection!
Please, I'd like you techie guy's help me understand what suppliers don't want to to tell me about compatibility How can I tell if the drive will fit the carrier, is the cable required, and will a cable prevent assembly?
Is this an Apple way of shutting out the competition!

.........Which is why I put 'certain'. Thanks for the rude reply, I understand exactly what I have read.
What is to stop the OP taking a drive out of a MyBook? ( as I have done-I use it for storage only). We don't know what other hardware he has or what else he is going to do with it. That's why I included the link so that he could read and understand it in it's entirety which is something you don't appear to have done with my post. If I had known about any well known Seagate/Lacie issues I would have included links to those too.
The OP mentioned WD so I pointed him in what I thought was the direction of a useful FYI. He reads, he makes his choice, he returns to clarify if necessary.
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I just used "Erase" via "Find my phone" to erase and rest my MBP. It's caused my MBP to be locked. I entered correct 4 digit PIN and it seemed to accept it, but it won't allow use of the internal drive. Yosemite loaded. Anyone else had same problem?

I just used "Erase" via "Find my phone" to erase and reset my MBP. It's caused my MBP to be locked. I entered correct 4 digit PIN and it seemed to accept it, but it won't allow use of the internal drive. Yosemite loaded. Anyone else had same problem?

Greetings Fraser Alexander,
Erasing your Mac shouldn't harm your internal hard drive but erasing does clear Yosemite and everything else off of it. Are you not able to restore it with your Time Machine backup?
iCloud: Erase your device
If you erase then find your Mac, you can restore the information on the Mac using a Time Machine backup. For more information, see the Apple Support article Recover your entire system. If you set an EFI firmware password on your Mac before it was lost, then erase it and later find it, you may need to take your Mac to an authorized repair center to unlock it before you can use it again.
OS X Yosemite: Recover your entire system
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Nubz

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Hitachi HDS723020BLA642:
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Model:          Hitachi HDS723020BLA642
Revision:          MN0KB6D0
Serial Number:                MN1270FA05U8KD
Native Command Queuing:          Yes
Queue Depth:          32
Removable Media:          No
Detachable Drive:          No
BSD Name:          disk1
Rotational Rate:          7200
Medium Type:          Rotational
Partition Map Type:          GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:          Verified
Volumes:
disk1s1:
Capacity:          209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name:          disk1s1
Content:          EFI
In_Progress:
Capacity:          500.1 GB (500,100,001,792 bytes)
Available:          123.87 GB (123,870,728,192 bytes)
Writable:          Yes
File System:          Journaled HFS+
BSD Name:          disk1s2
Mount Point:          /Volumes/In_Progress
Content:          Apple_HFS
Media_Catch:
Capacity:          765 GB (765,000,003,584 bytes)
Available:          564.39 GB (564,387,356,672 bytes)
Writable:          Yes
File System:          Journaled HFS+
BSD Name:          disk1s3
Mount Point:          /Volumes/Media_Catch
Content:          Apple_HFS
Archive:
Capacity:          734.69 GB (734,686,519,296 bytes)
Available:          734.06 GB (734,055,845,888 bytes)
Writable:          Yes
File System:          Journaled HFS+
BSD Name:          disk1s4
Mount Point:          /Volumes/Archive
Content:          Apple_HFS

Hard drive run OS X 10.6.8 and an added internal drive run OS X 10.8?

I want to run two OS X's on my computer so that I won't have to spend $1000+ to upgrade all my software. I have OS X 10.6.8 on my Mac Pro hard drive now but would like to add an internal hard drive that runs only OS X 10.8. Is this possible to do? If so, how do I go about it?

The Cheese Gratter Mac Pro (I used to own one), has room for four drive lots for 3.5" internal disk drives. It is rather easy.
<http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/faq/mac-pro-how-to-upgrade-hard-dr ives-what-type-supported.html>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_xGaTmz2Kk>
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If you have created more than 1 partition, you can install other operating system versions on those partitions or use them for data.
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Once you have your 2nd (3rd, 4th, 5th, etc...) operating system installed, you can use System Preferences -> Startup Disk to specify which operating system you want to boot the next time you boot.
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Adding Internal Drives to G5

I need more space on my G5.
Currently I have the original 80G Hard drive that came with it, and an added 200G internal drive. I work with video and am constantly having to delete old projects in order to make room for new ones.
As I understand it, the G5 will only allow for 2 internal drives. One being the start up drive (which should hold all applications/Library/Ect.) and then another "scratch" drive for actual projects (i.e. video/audio capture). Am I correct?
I am a novice still trying to understand what/what not to put where. All I know is that I work with hours of video and am in desparate need of more space. So any suggestions/advice you may have will be greatly appreciated.
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Trade up ;-(
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I would forget the 80GB for work and put it aside for now, and invest in 500GB drive. Would be nice to build an external SATA RAID.
There are some internal dual and triple drive bracket kits that run off SATA controllers as well - you ought to have ample room for one (or two).
But I always thought that working with video it was very helpful to have dual cpu or better.
Any investment in SATA drive would help now and later, but I would look at G5 2.3 Dual Core or something too.
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Added Internal Drive as Eject option !! But why??

Recently I added a 1TB internal drive to my PowerMac G4. The drive is operating as expected. However, I have the option to "Eject" the drive. This is my first Mac with multiple internal drives. Is this normal functionality to be able to "Eject" an internal drive? Is there a way to disable the "Eject" option on the drive.
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Yes that is perfectly normal. All drives can be 'ejected' even internal ones. Even if you drag your boot drive to the trash (but don't let go) it will show the eject icon aswell.

I purchased iTunes $15 card at Dollar Store. I recall entering the code somewhere but was not able to access iTunes . What can I do to get the card added to my Apple store account .

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System has default drive in Bay 1 bottom (Seagate 60GB ATA).
This is connected to primary Bus - ATA/66.
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Ideally, I'd want to move the System disk (the 60GB Seagate) to the slower ATA/33 bus, location - where I removed the ZIP drive from.
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