Adding Internal Drives in QuickSilver

System has default drive in Bay 1 bottom (Seagate 60GB ATA).
This is connected to primary Bus - ATA/66.
Goal: to add two new 250GB ATA drives (Maxtor), and Mirror them.
Ideally, I'd want to move the System disk (the 60GB Seagate) to the slower ATA/33 bus, location - where I removed the ZIP drive from.
Okay, fine, that works.
Then, I put the two new drives on the faster ATA/66 bus. Startup, I get the grey screen with the symbol on it - circle with a slash through it (like NO SMOKING).
What is my problem?
Thanks!
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Hi, Paul!
Things to check...
The optical drive should be jumpered as Master (it should already be so configured) with the Seagate jumpered as slave. (A Seagate configured as slave has no jumper pin present.)
One Maxtor should have the jumper removed completely (slave). The other should have the pin inserted vertically across the leftmost two pins in the jumper block, as you face the pin end of the drive with the label/top of the drive facing upward (Master).
Once configured properly, either do a PMU reset while the Mac is open, or do a PRAM reset before booting the first time. Once booted, launch Disk Utility and initialize/format the new drives.
You must have Boot ROM version 4.3.3f2 on your QS2002 (see the System Profiler) to natively run the 250GB drives at full size/capacity on the built-in drive bus. If you have any other version, the drives will be limited to 128GB after formatting.
Gary
ps: You do realize that the optical drive bus runs with a max throughput of only 16.7MB/sec, right? Moreover, you might run into burning issues if you're planning to use the Seagate as the startup volume on that bus.
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